Fidget Pie

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Author Notes: There are many different recipes out there for fidget pies, and almost as many theories as to how it got its name. The most plausible suggests that it may come from the slang word for apple, “fitchett,” which makes sense, because every fidget pie recipe I’ve ever seen includes apples. For this (and all meat pies), I use my mother’s hot water crust, substituting lard for shortening. It produces a tender but sturdy crust. If you prefer a butter crust, by all means use whatever is your favorite. Or, you can use this recipe and substitute shortening for the lard in the same amount. However you decide to go with the crust . . . . enjoy!!AntoniaJames

Makes one nine-inch pie

Fidget Pie

  • 2 nine-inch pie crusts
  • 3 medium white, red or Yukon gold potatoes
  • 1 tablespoon olive oil
  • 3 tablespoons butter (or bacon fat, if you’re so inclined)
  • 2 medium yellow onions, peeled and sliced crosswise
  • Salt
  • Large pinch (about 1/2 teaspoon) of fresh thyme leaves
  • 2 tablespoons flour
  • ½ cup warmed chicken broth, preferably homemade and somewhat rich
  • 3/4 cup fresh apple cider (preferably unpasteurized), divided
  • 2 tablespoons natural (unpasteurized) cider vinegar
  • 1/2 teaspoon coarsely ground brown mustard
  • 1 cup coarsely grated sharp cheddar (Manchego is nice in this, too.)
  • 1 ½ cup cooked ham, cut into bite-sized pieces
  • 2 medium-sized tart apples (but not Granny Smiths), peeled, cored and thinly sliced
  • 6 small Brussels sprouts, trimmed and halved lengthwise
  • Pinch of freshly ground nutmeg
  • Freshly ground pepper, to taste
  • Egg wash: 1 whole egg beaten with 1 tablespoon water
  • Coarse salt
  1. Prepare the crust and have it ready to fill. Refrigerate it until all of the filling ingredients have been prepared.
  2. Preheat the oven to 425 degrees Fahrenheit.
  3. Slice the potatoes about 1/3 inch thick and toss them with the olive oil and a pinch of salt. Roast them in the hot oven for ten minutes. You want them to be somewhat cooked, but not crisp. Allow them to sit on the baking sheet for at least ten minutes before removing. (They'll come up much more easily, if you do.) You can do this step in advance and store the potato pieces, tightly covered, in the refrigerator for up to 24 hours. Warm them gently, though, before assembling the pie.
  4. In a heavy skillet, cook the onion slices in two tablespoons of butter (or bacon fat, or a combination of the two) with a pinch of salt over medium heat, stirring occasionally, for at least ten minutes, or until lightly browned. Remove the onions with a slotted spoon and set aside.
  5. In the same skillet (without wiping it), melt the remaining tablespoon of butter or bacon fat and sprinkle the flour over it; cook over medium heat, stirring constantly, until you have a somewhat dry paste. Continue to stir while cooking until the mixture becomes a light, nutty brown color.
  6. Add the chicken broth slowly, stirring constantly. Add the thyme leaves, continuing to stir. Slowly add 1/2 cup of the apple cider and stir well to combine. Cook for about two minutes, add whatever juices have collected in the bowl with the onions, and cook for another minute, stirring. Add the mustard, the cider vinegar and the cooked onions and stir to combine. You can do this step in advance and store the mixture, tightly covered, in the refrigerator for up to 24 hours. Warm it gently, though, before assembling the pie.
  7. In the bottom of the prepared pie shell, layer the cheese, then the potatoes, then the ham, then the onion mixture, and then the apples. If you are adding Brussels sprouts, add them between the ham and onion mixture layers.
  8. Slowly pour the remaining 1/4 cup of cider over the filling. Sprinkle the nutmeg, a good pinch of salt and freshly grated pepper, to taste, over the pie filling.
  9. Paint the outer edge of the lower crust with egg wash. Put the top crust on, paint with egg wash, and lightly sprinkle on a few pinches of coarse salt. (The best way to do this so you don't end up with clumps of salt on the crust is to hold your hand about 16 inches or more above the pie while sprinkling.)
  10. Vent by cutting 1 ½ inch slits around the outside edge and in the middle. Cut as a vent in the center of the pie the initial of someone who will be at the table when you serve it. This is very important.
  11. Cook at 425 degrees for 15 minutes, then reduce the heat to 350 and cook for another 45 minutes. Check after the pie has been in the oven for a total of 20-25 minutes; if necessary, cover with a foil frame or whatever method you prefer to prevent the crust from getting too dark.
  12. Serve with roasted carrots and roasted Brussels sprouts or broccoli (if you're not cooking the Brusslies in the pie), and plenty of good hard cider.
  13. Enjoy!!
  14. View this recipe as a starting point for developing other pies using other combinations of similar ingredients. You can also make this with just the top crust, but if you do, start your layering with the potatoes -- and use one or two in addition to the ones called for here -- then put on the cheese and continue from there. I'd probably add a tablespoon or two of heavy cream drizzled over the onion mixture, in that case. The possibilities are endless.

Mother's Hot Water Pie Crust

  • ¾ cup high quality leaf lard or organic, non-hydrogenated shortening (I like Spectrum brand)
  • ¼ cup boiling water
  • 1 tablespoon hot 2% or whole milk
  • 2 cups all-purpose flour
  • 1 teaspoon salt
  1. If you are using lard, make sure that it is at room temperature before you begin making the crust. In a medium bowl, whip the boiling water and hot milk into the lard or shortening with a fork until the fat melts and the ingredients are combined. Allow to cool to lukewarm.
  2. Add the flour and the salt and stir well until combined.
  3. Divide into two, with one piece -- to be used as the top crust -- slightly larger than the other. Quickly gather up one portion and wrap it in plastic wrap. While in the wrap, shape the dough into a rough disk about six inches in diameter. Put it into the refrigerator. Do the same thing with the other half of the dough.
  4. Refrigerate for at least an hour.
  5. Roll out each piece between two large pieces of plastic wrap (or a pie crust bag, if that’s what you typically use), lightly flouring the bottom piece, and lightly flouring the top of the dough. If you've refrigerated it overnight, it helps to let it sit on the counter for ten or fifteen minutes before rolling. Put one rolled crust in a 9-inch pie plate, removing the bottom sheet of plastic, and leaving a half-inch overhang of dough. Keep the other piece of plastic on it, tucking the edges so that the crust remains wrapped. Wrap the edges of wrap on the other crust so that it is fully covered as well.
  6. Return both crusts to the refrigerator until you’re ready to assemble the pie.
  7. N.B. Only use lard if you can get a fine leaf lard. Any other kind will produce a heavy crust. Also, don't be alarmed by the bacon-y smell of the lard when it's uncooked. The taste and aroma of this crust when baked become very subtle.
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about 4 years ago lapadia

Hi Antonia, just stopping by this recipe page to save it, as it is definately one that I plan to make soon. Also, thanks again for the thouhtful message sent re: my winning pie!

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over 4 years ago tiptoesinthekitchen

This looks and sounds so interesting - I love the idea of it and the name too!

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over 4 years ago AntoniaJames

AntoniaJames is a trusted source on Bread/Baking.

Thank so much! ;o)

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over 4 years ago vvvanessa

fidget! love it!

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over 4 years ago AntoniaJames

AntoniaJames is a trusted source on Bread/Baking.

Thanks! I love the word "fidget," too It's almost onomatopoeic. This is peasant food, but with a fun name. ;o)

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over 4 years ago fiveandspice

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Oh this looks splendid! I have an apple obsession - with all aspects, picking, buying, eating, you name it! And, I am always excited about new savory ways to use them.

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over 4 years ago AntoniaJames

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Oh, thank you! Hope you try it. The concept of onions, plus apples, plus potatoes, plus meat, with a little cheese thrown in for good measure, is not that usual, but it works really well in a pie! The potatoes are critical, as they ground this dish with a bit of earthiness. ;o)

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over 4 years ago AntoniaJames

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Ooops, I meant to say, is not that "unusual." ;o)

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over 4 years ago luvcookbooks

Meg is a trusted home cook.

Thanks for the lard tips!

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over 4 years ago AntoniaJames

AntoniaJames is a trusted source on Bread/Baking.

Any time! My pleasure, really. ;o)

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over 4 years ago luvcookbooks

Meg is a trusted home cook.

Lived in Madison for seven years, now deeply regret not going to the Farmer's Market there at least once a week. Console myself with greenmarkets here in NYC. The Madison market was so peaceful, though, and it was the center of the city...can't say that for the greenmarkets. I used to go to Ovens of Brittany for croissants after the Farmer's Market.

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over 4 years ago Jennifer Ann

sounds like a perfect autumn evening dinner to me!

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over 4 years ago AntoniaJames

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Thank you! You're absolutely right. Fresh cider, potatoes, crisp apples, onions, sharp cheese . . . . definitely autumn fare. ;o)

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over 4 years ago Midge

I've never heard of fidget pie either, but this one sounds right up my alley.

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over 4 years ago thirschfeld

love it. getting ready to render some lard and make some hams, and bacon next week. Isn't the Madison farmers market great? Cortlands, Jonathans and York Imperials are good tart apple too.

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over 4 years ago AntoniaJames

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Thanks! Yes, the Madison Farmers market is amazing. I've never seen so much grass-fed meat, tempting sausages, maple syrup (the stuff of which dreams are made, truly), alfalfa honey (I brought some back, which I'm selfishly hoarding), beautiful cheeses, and oh, the apples!! I wouldn't shop anywhere else during the farmers' market season if I lived within 100 miles of Madison. ;o)