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Will You Pay for NYT Cooking Recipes?

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June 29, 2017

The New York Times has added a paywall to NYT Cooking, its online recipe database and companion app. As of Wednesday, June 28, new subscribers to the paper will be asked to pay $5 a month for access to the 18,000 or so recipes on Cooking, not to mention videos, how-tos, and seasonal content. If you're a subscriber to the full paper, there is no additional charge for access.

The decision, which editor Sam Sifton acknowledged many would find “annoying,” isn’t hard to understand—as print journalism loses steam and advertisers bail, the Gray Lady needs other avenues of income to line its coffers. “The work we do is expensive, and we want to do more of it,” Sifton writes.

Some cooking content will still be available even if you don’t pay, like the recipes in the Cooking newsletter, brand new recipes, and some rotating collections—and you’ll get a 28-day grace period before you have to pay up. So far, the Times has not incorporated Chef’d, the meal kit service that designs subscription boxes around Times recipes, into the app.

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The question is, will people actually pay up, given how many recipes and kitchen guides are, you know, free? Not to mention, it takes only a little Google-fu to find recipes that are “adapted from” or “inspired by” whatever recipe you’re looking to find. It’s hard to imagine the subscription service taking off when so much competing content is readily available. It could also be that this is a sign of more paywalls to come in the world of digital food content, but I hope to avoid that issue until I move up a tax bracket.

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“They should have grandfathered in all who already had recipe boxes, and should include free access for digital subscribers as well as print. We should be rewarded, not punished, for keeping up with the times (pun not intended)!”
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It’s also worth noting that the Cooking app was launched by the Times in 2014, along with NYT Opinion and NYT Now. Both of the latter standalone apps were eventually shuttered despite positive reception due to a lack of subscribers.

Speaking to Nieman Lab, the Times’ Cooking Product Direct, Amanda Rottier, said that in particular, the comment section on recipes are put to good use, making the paper hopeful that its audience would stick with the service post-paywall. “We have created this great community of like-minded home cooks who really add [to] recipes through their notes,” Rottier said. “I would say when people look at recipes, the first thing they go to the notes and check out what people have said about it: Are there substitutions? Are there things I need to keep in mind? That’s been great, and we’ve spent a lot of time making the community strong. We moderate those notes and don’t let [just] anything go up there.”

It’s true, additional notes in the comments and caveats from experienced home cooks really do make a huge difference. To me, that still brings us back to the original question—who will pay for recipe content when it’s the free advice that makes or breaks a dish?

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STARBIRD November 13, 2022
YOU GREEDY BASTARDS. YOU ARE A VERY RICH PAPER AND YOU DON'T NEED MY MONEY AND I DON'T NEED YOUR RECIPES.
APPARENTLY YOU HAVE NOTHING TO GIVE BUT GREED.
 
Bzlester May 10, 2020
This is how the arrogant food editor responds to a very longtime NYT subscriber who objects to paying $5 more a month for recipes, long a feature of newspaper food sections:

“...I'm sorry, too, that you're not interested in a subscription to NYT Cooking. It is thriving, however, and I'm proud of the work that we've done to make it so. Indeed I was recently promoted to the masthead, as an assistant managing editor responsible for culture and lifestyle news. Tomorrow's another day, though. Maybe I'll be fired -- and in the middle of a pandemic, too! -- simply because one lady doesn't want to pay for a subscription!”
 
Melanie P. May 11, 2020
Wow! Arrogant is right! Thanks for posting this - I hope her manager has enough integrity to tell her how inappropriate her comment was. Makes me even more glad I didn’t opt to pay for their recipes.
 
Maizy1 February 27, 2021
Wow! That is so wildly inappropriate. If the Times still had a Public Editor or ombudsmen I would urge you to forward that email response to them. Since they don't, you could try sharing it with the NYT Reader Center. I have been a NYT digital customer since the earliest days. Yesterday my recipes suddenly disappeared behind a paywall. This is the same scheme the cable providers use, constantly separating content and adding additional pay requirements. It is one of the reasons cable companies are the most hated businesses in the US. The NYT is foolish to follow down this path.
 
j January 28, 2019
I admit, I felt smacked hard when hitting the paywall, after decades as a faithful NYT subscriber. If they were keeping track, they'd know the Food Section comprised 70% of my NYT activity.
I changed from paper to digital when we started a major interior home renovation a few years ago. I considered going to paper again, but recently discovered, due to higher fees, City of Philadelphia is now incinerating almost 50% of paper waste (shameful, I know - they say they're working on it.)

Sure, NYT food is great content, but $5 EVERY month? To access an archive? Ain't gonna happen. Too many other good food writers/sites out there to support.

I recommend they consider archive access package fees. For example, digital subscribers may read 15 food articles/recipes per month. If they want to read more, they will be offered tiered package options for purchase.
 
greenbeanalmondine November 18, 2018
I bet they don't charge separately for the sports section!
 
Janet A. October 19, 2018
They should have grandfathered in all who already had recipe boxes, and should include free access for digital subscribers as well as print. We should be rewarded, not punished, for keeping up with the times (pun not intended)!
 
greenbeanalmondine November 18, 2018
agree! I completely missed this news until now and boy am I p.o.'d!
 
Christine P. October 10, 2018
Print subscribers are allowed free access to the recipes, but digital subscribers must pay. Now even the recipes in the paper's Wednesday food section are not accessible with my print. But worst of all, almost everything I collected in my recipe box over the years is no longer available to me. Gifts should not be snatched back. I told Sam Sifton as much and cancelled all his food newsletters.
 
Sue April 21, 2018
My annual print subscription to the NYT ends today. Imagine my reaction today when I could not access my recipe box and hit a paywall. Luckily I have all my NYT cookbooks & 3x5 cards from the last century so I will rely on Craig & Pierre, plus Genius Recipes, but I will miss Mark, Melissa, Sam and Yotam. Thanks NYT, for 50 years of lessons, recipes and memorable meals, but no to $$ for archive search.
 
trixie April 21, 2018
In a time when fake news abounds, I couldn’t give up a NYT subscription. Even the lowest price supports great journalism and gives you access to cooking too.
 
Christine P. October 20, 2018
ON-line only newspaper subscriptions do not have access to the recipes. You must be a print subscriber.
 
Charles M. December 27, 2017
cheap trick by theNYT. and now all my files are now gone. unless I pay which I won,t
 
JohnLucas November 26, 2017
No thanks. $60 is quite excessive. NYT recipes was my go to place but I can live without and have plenty of other sources. Besides, I became quite alienated by NYT business practices since NYT refused to correct for double charging when duplicate subscriptions were accidentally set up for myself and my wife. Fortunately my credit card successfully intervened.
 
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Melanie P. October 4, 2017
No, I will not pay for NYT recipes, even tho I have loved their ideas, recipe box and comments. Besides the insult of paying for something that was once free (sorry, but it's better swallowed to take first than to give away for free then start charging) who's to say they won't continue to up the price. In the end, you are paying for nothing real or tangible, like, say, a cookbook. Heck no, I'll just go to my other favorite recipe collection site - Food 52!
 
dolly September 20, 2017
No I will never pay for NYT cooking access. When the new NYT fee began, I wrote emails of objection. The responses totally missed the issues within my objections to the NYT new, "progressive" fee policy. Now have recipe box cannot use. Who is the marketing genius on this one?
 
Jay R. September 5, 2017
$10 a month for Netflix or $5 a month for a single recipe site? Sorry.
 
greenbeanalmondine November 18, 2018
agree. the next thing you know, we'll have to pay $5/month to read the front page.
 
John W. August 27, 2017
Dear NYT. Guess you've lost your gambit of baiting and switching your NYT Cooking subscribers. More and more people are leaving because of this sleazy move. It is simple enough to copy and save a recipe from anywhere including your site. All i did with NYT was to store recipes from yours and other sites for eventual transit to my own recipe file on my computer. Leaving recipes on your online recipe box wouldn't make any sense. You charge, you loose. Bye bye.
 
Anna July 19, 2017
I'm still mulling it over. I like the recipes, but they wouldn't be the same without all the great comments, and I'm just not sure everyone else is going to stick around. I get the same value from Food.com and allrecipes.com and they are both free.
 
Mark S. July 11, 2017
LOL. Yeah no. You play, you loose NYT. I'm not paying for recipes that are most often completely wrong. The latest "French" batch from Melissa Clifton is laughable and they want us to pay for that? Nope.
 
Sterling B. July 3, 2017
I have followed recipes on the New York times for decades now, long before cooking.nytimes.com. Now I am retired trying to live on SS. More time to cook, less money to buy food and not enough money to subscribe to ongoing charges like this paywall. I will miss it dearly, but can no longer afford this kind of expense. If they were to offer a discount for those of us on a small fixed income, I think I could manage, but not at $60 per year.
 
Can I. July 4, 2017
Do you subscribe to the New York Times? If you do, you still have access to Cooking.
 
greenbeanalmondine November 18, 2018
no you don't.
 
Can I. February 13, 2019
Yes, you do. An all access digital subscription includes NYT Cooking. This is what I have. And it's worth it.
 
maria S. July 1, 2017
As a subscriber, it's part of my monthly package, and I have to admit I use it quite a bit and it's a convenient place to stash other recipes found online.
 
Robyn July 1, 2017
I doubt it. $5 a month doesn't sound like a lot, but $60 a year does. I don't think I'd get the value for the money. Funny, I think I would have gone for $50 a year and certainly would have for $30.
 
WHB June 30, 2017
When I opened the app last night, ithere was a message saying it was changing to a subscription service. It said I would have complimentary access for a limited time.
 
trixie June 30, 2017
Again folks -- read the note that was sent regarding the change Or go the the Times and read what they've shared about the change. the Times FOOD section isn't going away. The Cooking APP isn't free. Not the same thing. The recipes you get in the newsletter are till free.
 
Maureen June 30, 2017
I used to get the paper edition but never found time to read it. I started subscribing to the digital edition last year because it's one of the few news sources I actually trust. It really doesn't cost that much and it's worth it to me to support genuine professional journalists dedicated to the truth. I'm sorry we live in a time when journalism is forced to such lengths. I love the Cooking section and hope it can survive.
 
Nomnomnom June 30, 2017
My situation is the same. I'm happy to spend a few dollars a month for news journalism I can trust. Access to information is everything.
 
Jane June 30, 2017
Why don't you guys just subscribe to the Times? The news is what they actually do, after all...well roundedness is admirable...
 
greenbeanalmondine November 18, 2018
they're charging separately for the recipe section...I've been a times subscriber since - forever. imagine how ticked I am.
 
trixie June 29, 2017
Many people seem to be commenting without actually having read Sam's email to Cooking subscribers. You are NOT losing access to your recipe box. You are NOT losing access to all recipes on the site. If you get the Cooking newsletter, you can access all the recipes shared in the newsletter. You can save them in your recipe box and access at your leisure. You won't lose anything you've saved. You will still be able to read notes on all free recipes. And you still have access to everything in the Food section. Perhaps the headline of this story should have been Will You Pay for the NYT Cooking APP, not Recipes....
 
Lisa July 2, 2017
This is what came in my email from Sam:

Today, we have erected a virtual wall around a lot of the recipes, collections and features we offer on our website, and we are asking that you pay for a subscription in order to access them.

With that subscription, you’ll have access to all of our more than 18,000 recipes, our instructional guides and videos, our seasonal and thematic collections of recipes, your recipe box and the organizational features attached to it. (Without a subscription, you’ll still get access to the recipes featured in this newsletter, to the new recipes we publish each week and to a limited number of rotating collections. But that’s about it.)

It seems pretty clear that your recipe box will be locked. Nothing to do with the app, which I've never had. I think I'm interpreting it correctly....
 
mizerychik June 29, 2017
Totally ridiculous. There are plenty of other fish recipes in the sea. If you can't figure out how to make money without putting up a paywall for content that people can get elsewhere for free, your business model is a failure.
 
Lisa July 2, 2017
That's how I feel. I must admit that I have a bit of sorrow at the decline of the NYT, LAT, and other fabulous newspapers that are struggling in this country. BUT, I stopped taking a daily newspaper in the early 90's myself because I was working and could get all the news on the internet, or the thousands of cable channels on tv. Plus my fingers didn't get black....

I sent a reply to Sam saying, No thank you. The fact that newspapers are failing is old news. I wish they had figured out how to adapt to the digital age. By the way, I'm 65. I'm not a 30 or 40 year old, who has been raised with technology. When grade school kids are given iPads/tablets when they enter school (Irvine, CA plus many other school districts), that is a huge hint that the times have changed.

I'm sorry they didn't hire the right people to help them keep up.
 
aimi June 29, 2017
as a us expat in japan, i second the comment about international shipping for the food52 store!!
food52's recipes are a constant in my kitchen so i would love a way to give back..
(not to mention there are so many stylish things in the store!)
 
Rebecca S. June 30, 2017
Hi Aimi! Thanks so much for your kind words and your interest in our shop! Unfortunately we can't deliver our goods worldwide quite yet -- but it’s wonderful to hear that you're interested. We're sorry that you're only able to window shop at the moment, we hope you’ll check back with us as we grow.
 
Barbara J. June 29, 2017
I completely understand the need to collect money for that which costs considerably to produce. Makes good business sense. Sadly, I will not be subscribing at this time, b/c I dropped the NYT overall subscrip b/c of cost, and found I was missing too many days of cover to cover reading and the anxiety that caused. Mind you, I love every word, in every section, every day...especially all the terrific features of the Cooking section. Sadly, it is not on the list for now and I will miss its ease of use and my confidence in the product, plus the fun times I've had with comparing and contrasting comments and suggestions. Not to mention all the delicious meals.
Oh well...good luck. Hopefully I'll catch up with you later...
 
Mark S. July 11, 2017
I get what you mean when you say it costs money but let's be honest, it doesn't cost them 5 bucks a months x millions of customers, especially not these recipes, which are mostly not created by them.
I get that they are not making the money they used to with newspapers.
However what I find disgusting is the bait and switch. They are now used by enough people that they feel they can say "oh no, sorry, you have to pay for it now" and get away with it.
The sad truth is they are trying to make up for the money they are losing on their main business with their side business, but are failing to realize it's successful only because it's free. Good luck to them but that's still an appalling business model.
 
starvingfoodist August 10, 2017
I'm bummed at the new expense to consider (and am considering since it has been an enjoyable, reliable resource for me), but that's how businesses work. There are money-making departments and money-losing departments that are nevertheless essential. The marketing team makes it possible to have HR and accounting departments. Ask any chef and they'll tell you which items on their menus help cover the costs of those that break even. Regardless, even if this income may be used to help cover other departments, recipe R+D undoubtedly has its fair share of costs. I wouldn't be so quick to pigeon-hole them merely as money-grubbing. The struggle to survive in a saturated information era is not one they face alone. Cutting the bulk of their copyediting team on the other hand? That is a mistake.
 
Nancy E. June 29, 2017
No. I will not pay to access NYT recipes. I subscribe to Bon Appetite, Southern Living, Cooking Light and Martha Stewart magazines. Plus I have a large cookbook collection to reference.
 
Lisa July 2, 2017
I only kept Fine Cooking.
 
sjo June 29, 2017
For Michele: Fake news is not content that you don't like but deliberate misinformation or hoaxes spread via traditional print and broadcast news media or online social media. Fake news is published with the intent to mislead in order to gain financially or politically, often with sensationalist, exaggerated, or patently false headlines. The New York Times does not do this.
 
btglenn June 29, 2017
I am a subscriber to the Times, so I would get their info for free. AlthoughI do use their recipes, I mostly depend on the old timers like craig claibourne who, with Pierre Franey introduced recipes that can be made in half an hour or an hour, depending. Mark Bittman, no longer with the Times, provided scores of recipes that did not indulge the fantasies of professional chefs like many found in today's NY Times food pages, but provided interesting ways to combine ingredients that could easily be in anyone's pantry. Although I use the Times data base when want to find a recipe for an ingredient I have, but one different from the way I usually prepare it.
Over the years I have compiled my own on-line cookbook gathering and including recipes and methods over time. I designed my online "book" for how I like recipes to appear, and organized it in chapter files just like a print version... starting with Appetizers and Drinks, and ending with Cakes and Desserts. I also have separate categories for burgers/meatloaf/meatballs, and for specific vegetables like corn and polenta or for special combinations of vegetables for zucchini, tomatoes, eggplant, etc. Some of my recipes come from the Times, some from Food 52, but mostly they are a come from a wide range of sources -- from old cookbooks or online, and for those I have reworked to my own satisfaction. My online cookbook is geared to my individual preferences and food needs, and also, since I now live alone, to ones that produce good leftovers or portions for several days eating, but does not leave out dishes for special occasions and for dinner parties. Anyone with a few computer skills and MS Word can do the same using recipes from all over, organized to personal preferences -- not just the NY Times or Food 52, or the Smitten Kitchen.
 
Maureen July 1, 2017
How do you get the recipes into Word? Cut and paste? One of my very fave cooking websites is Serious Eats (Kenji is my hero) but they have no way to save recipes that I know of.
 
Fred R. July 2, 2017
Cut and paste to a note, then search when needed.
 
Lisa July 2, 2017
Take a screenshot from your iPad, then print it from the photo. OR, email the recipe to yourself, print from there...
 
Lisa July 2, 2017
And yes, copy it to Note. I take a screenshot because I can move it in my photos. Also back it up to the cloud. I must admit I do print my faves to put in a binder.
 
Jade G. June 29, 2017

Food52 and other foodie sites can't replace the decades old storehouse of recipes the New York Times offers, recipes from great cooks/food writers through the decades like Craig Claiborne, Pierre Franey, Mark Bittman, Melissa Clark, Kim Severson, Molly O'Neill, Nigella Lawson, Jean Hewitt, on and on. Your own founder Amanda Hesser edited a compilation of great NYTimes recipes that didn't include even 10% of what they offer.

Online food sites can't begin to replace such a deep trove of cooking lore. Food52 is a fun site but trendy, and some of their writers are obvious, you know, beginners. The juvenile voices and slangy attempts to be hip are wearying, and corrections to incorrect recipes are very slow to appear. Re: monetizing, Food52 flacks overpriced cookware and tchotchkes at their online store every day. Everyone needs to pay the bills. Though I consider the Times' pricing of $5 monthly a bit high, who can blame the them for seeking payment for a unique collection of 18,000 tested recipes offered via app so available anywhere? It's a truly How to Cook Anything treasure chest.
 
Mark S. July 11, 2017
Quantity and quality are not the same. Food52 offers a lot of original recipes that can be followed to the letter or used for inspiration. NYT Cooking offers a lot of recipes, a lot of which are just wrong, many of which are doubled, tripled or quadrupled, most of which are just classics with slight variations...
If you search for anything in the NYT Cooking archive, you will invariably get dozens of results that are the same thing from different writers.
I would have no objections to them having a store with overpriced items because that makes monetization optional. This bait and switch, however, is disgusting.
 
emanne June 29, 2017
will not be paying, since that's not a convenience I can afford. I'm especially upset because I often use their recipe storing and organizing options, and I don't want to have to move all of my saved recipes (including those from other sites), to another platform.
 
M June 29, 2017
NYT Recipe app is great! The indexing is good, the comments and suggestions on recipes are good, it is very "table-friendly". We use the app in place of cookbooks in the kitchen for many things. I love that all their old recipes are there too. We are already a NYT subscriber and have used the app extensively since it was released.
 
melissa June 29, 2017
NYT recipes are NOT flawless. I've been burned way too many times with tasteless dishes. Would not pay.
 
Michele June 29, 2017
I love Melissa Clark's recipes. I'm very conflicted. I stopped subscribing to Cook's Illustrated because I didn't feel I was getting $35 a year of content I was using. I'm no sure I see $60 a year of value from NYT Cooking. I really love the NYT Cooking columns, though. I subscribe to the Washington Post and their cooking content is nothing compared to the Times.
 
xoch June 29, 2017
It's a moot point for me since I'm a suscriber already. I understand the need to monetize a section that costs $$ to produce, but I'm not quite sure it will work. Hopefully for them it will, but I rely more on food52 and smittenkitchen for recipes anyway. Someone in the comments section has usually asked what I was wondering, and has been answered, or commented on the actual results, instead of the NYTimes readers' rather inane comments on recipes. That said, I do like Melissa Clark's recipes and even bought her latest book. On a semi-related note, I'd love to support the Food52 store but they don't have international shipping, is that in your medium term plans?
 
Rebecca S. June 30, 2017
Hi there, xoch. Thank you so much for expressing interest in supporting our shop! I'm so sorry you're only able to window shop at the moment--while we don't quite have immediate plans for this expansion, I hope you continue to check back in with us as we grow. It's something we're quite passionate about exploring.
 
M June 29, 2017
No.

"Easy weeknight salmon recipes" ... "reasons to buy a rotisserie chicken" ... "vegetarian main dishes you should make" ...

It's one thing to put a price tag on well-curated content that offers something special and stands out. It's another to ask for money for BASIC CONTENT you can find elsewhere for free, or buy in more depth from cookbooks and other cooking outlets.

 
mizerychik June 29, 2017
Exactly this.
 
sexyLAMBCHOPx June 29, 2017
Nope.
 
ChefJune June 29, 2017
I'm a subscriber to the paper so the fee is a moot point. However, I rarely print out recipes from the paper. We have such good ones right here.... and I'm a recipe developer, besides.
 
Ramona N. June 29, 2017
I'm annoyed. I have never subscribed to NYT online content, and carefully access the 10 free articles per month. Then I was lured into the cooking newsletter and page, now this. Until I have more income, I'll be looking for copycats. Just because one is a discerning cook looking for lots of sources, doesn't mean I have unlimited income.
 
Can I. June 29, 2017
I don't think this is correct.
"As of Wednesday, June 28, new subscribers to the paper will be asked to pay $5 a month for access to the 18,000 or so recipes on Cooking . . ."

The message from Sam Sifton said that NYT subscribers will have access to Cooking with their subscription. Non-NYT subscribers will have to pay $5/month for access to Cooking.

But even if I weren't an NYT subscriber, I would probably pay for access. It's fantastic resource and I save new recipes nearly every day and cook many of them. The recipes may not be tested as exhaustively as Cook's Illustrated tests theirs, but they are all contributed by extremely accomplished cooks like Sifton, Melissa Clark, Mark Bittman, Florence Fabricant and even Amanda Hesser! I've had great success. The app is really handy too.
 
Shadi M. June 29, 2017
Ah, that makes sense. I'm an NYT subscriber and am not being prompted to pony up additional money.
 
Panfusine June 29, 2017
I've never relied on the recipes from NYT to make food so it doesn't matter either way.. wonder if they'd be better off marketing this idea in a better way.. I understand it can be a cash cow, but the way it seems to be portrayed in the news kind of seems like they're a tad eager to hike their profits. The last thing you want to give is ammo against NY times to 'you know who'..
 
SMSF June 29, 2017
Your information isn't quite accurate (first paragraph). Anyone with a basic digital subscription to NYT has full access to all NYT apps, including Cooking, whether it's a new subscription or not.

The new $5/month for Cooking is for a standalone subscription/access to only that app.

Personally, I love the Cooking app but wouldn't pay $5/month for it alone. I enjoy it very much -- and use it -- as part of my basic digital subscription which costs only a couple of dollars more/month.
 
PieceOfLayerCake June 29, 2017
Am I "annoyed"? No. I've never heavily relied upon NYT recipes. But, I don't necessarily think its going to work. As its mentioned here: there are thousands and thousands of recipes in the world. A company like Cook's Illustrated gives you a solid reason to pay premium. They test their recipes painstakingly and walk you through the process. You know you're getting a recipe that's going to work. What's going to set NYT apart? I'm not yet certain. When it comes to shelling out for recipes, for me I'd rather pay for a hard copy book than access to an online database. That's my two cents.
 
Cassandra B. June 29, 2017
Agreed.
 
Nancy June 29, 2017
Agreed. Also, several have noted sympathy for NYT cooking section (and others parts of the paper) as internet has disrupted their old business model. Charging individual customers is not the only and may not be the best solution.