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Red Pepper Taxicab Chicken
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LeBec F.
December 28, 2015
ct, as usual I have a p.s. here. Here's what illumination Kenji Alt Lopez puts on the fresh/dried bay leaf topic:
I'm in the habit adding a bay leaf to my béchamel sauce and once made the mistake of throwing a fresh bay leaf in there. I figured, fresher is better, right? I ended up with a sauce that tasted like I'd tipped a bottle of cold medicine into it. What gives?
Turns out that in this country, dried bay leaves are imported (generally from Turkey) and fresh bay leaves come from California, almost universally. And in fact, the two types of bay leaves are not even directly related. Fresh California bay leaves come from a tree that has a decidedly more potent eucalyptus flavor that can easily dominate a dish if you're not careful, while Turkish bay is much milder and more nuanced. In fact, bay leaves are the one case where I'd advocate against ever using fresh, unless you know what you're getting into.*
Edit: *or unless you know that you're getting real mediterranean bay laurel, not California bay.
Long story short? Yes, you should use bay leaves. No, fresh bay leaves cannot be substituted for dry. Yes, you should store them in the freezer, and finally, yes, I can tell you my favorite bay leaf-forward recipe: it's this Jerk Chicken, where the chicken gets cooked on a full-on bed of smoking bay leaves.>
What do you think about that? And where do you find fresh bay leaves? Indian markets? I just tasted a leaf from a Holiday garland, and it has no aroma whatsoever, so I'm guessing that bay laurel is unrelated to the Turkish or CA. bay leaves too.
I'm in the habit adding a bay leaf to my béchamel sauce and once made the mistake of throwing a fresh bay leaf in there. I figured, fresher is better, right? I ended up with a sauce that tasted like I'd tipped a bottle of cold medicine into it. What gives?
Turns out that in this country, dried bay leaves are imported (generally from Turkey) and fresh bay leaves come from California, almost universally. And in fact, the two types of bay leaves are not even directly related. Fresh California bay leaves come from a tree that has a decidedly more potent eucalyptus flavor that can easily dominate a dish if you're not careful, while Turkish bay is much milder and more nuanced. In fact, bay leaves are the one case where I'd advocate against ever using fresh, unless you know what you're getting into.*
Edit: *or unless you know that you're getting real mediterranean bay laurel, not California bay.
Long story short? Yes, you should use bay leaves. No, fresh bay leaves cannot be substituted for dry. Yes, you should store them in the freezer, and finally, yes, I can tell you my favorite bay leaf-forward recipe: it's this Jerk Chicken, where the chicken gets cooked on a full-on bed of smoking bay leaves.>
What do you think about that? And where do you find fresh bay leaves? Indian markets? I just tasted a leaf from a Holiday garland, and it has no aroma whatsoever, so I'm guessing that bay laurel is unrelated to the Turkish or CA. bay leaves too.
creamtea
January 4, 2016
Yes, LBF I know about the bay leaf "issue". I used to bring back stems of fresh bay from my parents' home (I once bought them a small bay tree from a well-known plant catalogue that, years later, now towers over us all). Although they are in California, I know that it is not a "California Bay". I no longer have to bring back branches of bay, because my local Whole Foods and Fairway carry them along with other fresh herbs, in small "clamshell" containers, so they are easily obtained here in New York. I think that bay laurel is in fact Turkish Bay. Although I think at one time ATK did a "taste test" of fresh vs. dry leaves and found no difference, I feel differently. The fresh have a wonderful rounded "green" aroma when cooking and in the final product, without the harsh, almost clove-like spice scent and flavor of the dried version (which I don't care for). I do use the dry at times, in stews etc., and I think it could be used here, sparingly, if fresh is not obtainable.
LeBec F.
December 28, 2015
We all know that it's pretty impossible to keep up with EVERYthing on 52, and I missed this, ct, when it was a finalist. But as soon as I saw its title and photo today, followed by 'red vinegar' and 'aleppo pepper', I was yours completely! My only contribution is that it might take up less frig space (always at a premium around here) if the chicken parts and marinade were put together in a ziploc bag rather than their roasting pan.
ct, my strong inclination is to marinade overnight , grill it and serve the marinade, boiled and reduced, on the side. In your honest opinion, do
you think that's a good idea, or just stick with it as it's written? Thx much for yet another inspiring recipe, ct.
ct, my strong inclination is to marinade overnight , grill it and serve the marinade, boiled and reduced, on the side. In your honest opinion, do
you think that's a good idea, or just stick with it as it's written? Thx much for yet another inspiring recipe, ct.
creamtea
January 4, 2016
I definitely think that you could grill chicken parts after marinating overnight. I'm not experienced with grilling though--we live in New York and it's not permitted in our building (though I know that people do it anyway....when we first moved in there was a big brouhaha, building security knocked loudly on the door and raced through our apt. in force, checking the terrace on the report that we were barbecuing--which we weren't. Figuring it was a grave fire hazard and explicitly forbidden, I reported barbecue smoke a few weeks later from a neighboring apartment--they yawned--ho-hum!--and ignored it. Go figure!). I think it would be delicious either way. What interested me was the idea of grinding down the fresh peppers rather than roasted. It's bright, colorful and delicious (and one less step than first roasting).
sansan123
July 10, 2014
Think I may have come up with a solution to the browning problem but 1st. yummmm. love the marinade though since no fresh bay, used some fresh cilantro. super yumm. followed the recipe up to the last 10 minute of cooking and then whacked it on the kettle bbq. The skin crisped up nicely and the sauce was allowed extra time to reduce on it's own in the oven or you could go stovetop with it.
creamtea
July 10, 2014
Thanks sansan123, and thanks for trying my recipe! I sometimes brown chicken parts under the broiler the last few mins. (And by the way, if using parts, you don't have to add water to the bottom of the pan, only whole chickens on a roasting rack, to avoid burning). If using whole chickens on a rack, it shouldn't be a problem, it browns perfectly.
wendy W.
July 9, 2014
I want to try this sauce on boneless skinless chicken breast and serve over cornmeal with side of green beans. Think it would work ?
creamtea
July 9, 2014
Wendy, I like to get my chicken pieces nice and brown in the oven; you don't want the cutlets to get too dry or tough in the cooking process! Bone-in breasts may work better. But, it's worth a try; it's a delicious sauce/marinade.
wendy W.
August 27, 2014
I made just the sauce and froze it in popsicle molds so I can take out just one at a time. It's great over turkey patties and brown rice. I really love the tartness of the sauce.
THE M.
June 21, 2014
I'm an avid picnic goer. I don't understand any of the objections with respect to it being suitable for picnic food. It's classic picnic fare! It's delicious hot or at room temperature. Just make sure you have the right serving pieces - and containers. Try a roomy picnic hamper, containers with tight lids, with the red pepper taxicab chicken, some side dishes dessert and beverages, and you're bound to have a delightful time!
creamtea
June 23, 2014
I agree, The Future MBA, and it should be noted that there are many container options available nowadays that make it easy to transport. I hope you try my recipe!
ChefJune
June 19, 2014
Congrats, creamtea. this looks delicious. but it seems an odd choice for picnic food. Looks like it's kind of messy to eat by hand, and is meant to be served hot. Or did I miss something?
creamtea
June 19, 2014
June, thanks for the good wishes. I'm pretty fearless when it comes to our annual picnic, and I'll bring anything from bean chili to this chicken dish, well-wrapped. Pyrex is my friend!! :)
anotherfoodieblogger
April 29, 2013
This sounds really good! I will have to try this recipe, for sure! I love me some spicy!
creamtea
January 11, 2012
Thanks, boulangere! Hope you try it! Don't worry if the raw red-pepper puree tastes harsh and unpromising. It'll be good when cooked!
creamtea
January 11, 2012
thanks boulangere! Don't worry if the raw puree tastes harsh and unpromising. It's good!
boulangere
January 11, 2012
Ay yi yi! It's clearly worth the price of a plane ticket for a ride in one of your taxis. No telling what I'd learn. This looks amazing, wonderful, beautiful. Sunday tends to be chicken day here, so my menu is set. Thank you!
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