Fall
Savory Saffron Brioche with Rosemary and Vermont Ham
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SueVT
April 15, 2010
Hi mrslarkin,
Yes, the initial starter is a traditional thick (ball-like), kneadable starter. It is verbatim from James MacGuire (http://www.amazon.com/Taste-Bread-Raymond-Calvel/dp/0834216469), and Jeffrey Hamelman, when I took their class at King Arthur. After 7 days, when the starter is active, take it in a looser direction. It should be about the consistency of heavy pancake batter/muffin dough most of the time. Keep it on the counter, don't refrigerate it, and feed it twice a day. Good luck! Sue
Yes, the initial starter is a traditional thick (ball-like), kneadable starter. It is verbatim from James MacGuire (http://www.amazon.com/Taste-Bread-Raymond-Calvel/dp/0834216469), and Jeffrey Hamelman, when I took their class at King Arthur. After 7 days, when the starter is active, take it in a looser direction. It should be about the consistency of heavy pancake batter/muffin dough most of the time. Keep it on the counter, don't refrigerate it, and feed it twice a day. Good luck! Sue
mrslarkin
April 15, 2010
Thanks so much Sue!! Do you think the starter will be ready to use on Monday if I start it today? Or is there something i can do to it speed it up. Was hoping to bake it on Monday. Let me know what you think!
SueVT
April 15, 2010
Well that seems a bit unlikely ;-). Sourdough takes its time getting started.
However, having said that, the real point of the SD in this recipe is to speed up the process by having a portion of the dough be an already-developed dough. So, you could use something like a piece of the famous no-knead bread which I'm sure you are familiar with (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/08/dining/081mrex.html). Same difference, a trifle less flavor. If you have an 18-hour-old no-knead dough, quite soft, that should suffice. Then next time, if you start to maintain the sourdough, you'll always have a ready supply on your counter. Regards, Sue
However, having said that, the real point of the SD in this recipe is to speed up the process by having a portion of the dough be an already-developed dough. So, you could use something like a piece of the famous no-knead bread which I'm sure you are familiar with (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/08/dining/081mrex.html). Same difference, a trifle less flavor. If you have an 18-hour-old no-knead dough, quite soft, that should suffice. Then next time, if you start to maintain the sourdough, you'll always have a ready supply on your counter. Regards, Sue
mrslarkin
April 15, 2010
OK. So in step 8, how large a piece of the no-knead bread should I use instead of the starter? About 1 3/4 cups? Thanks so much for your help!
SueVT
April 18, 2010
I think the proportion would be about the same, yes.
However, if you know days in advance that you'll be making the brioche, you can do it in the conventional manner, by making a yeast dough and retarding it overnight to develop texture and flavor. So, you could make it Sunday night and finish it on Monday, omitting the sourdough altogether.... just put in a bit more flour/water to compensate.
Hope this helps!
Sue
However, if you know days in advance that you'll be making the brioche, you can do it in the conventional manner, by making a yeast dough and retarding it overnight to develop texture and flavor. So, you could make it Sunday night and finish it on Monday, omitting the sourdough altogether.... just put in a bit more flour/water to compensate.
Hope this helps!
Sue
mrslarkin
April 15, 2010
Hi SueVT! I'm making your bread. I checked your website for the starter recipe, but when I made it, I got a ball of dough, instead of a loose starter. I made it twice, thinking I messed up, and used your suggested 100g wheat flour/100g reg flour/130 g water. Should I have a ball of dough at this initial starter stage? Looking forward to making the brioche!
mrslarkin
April 5, 2010
THAT looks so beautiful! And your blog is gorgeous (love the maple onion and bacon pie!)
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