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The Kitchen Habit Chefs Can't Stand

February  2, 2016

As I waited for Angela Dimayuga, executive chef at Mission Chinese Food, to answer the phone, all I could think was, “Why am I calling her to ask her about tape?

She's one of the best chefs in Manhattan—I could have asked her about her grandmother’s sausage-stuffed chicken or her Filipino influence on the MCF menu, why her funky, fish sauce-y mapo tofu tastes so good, or really anything else. Instead I stared at a list of interview questions that started with “Why 3M?”

Not tape's finest moment, apparently. Photo by James Ransom

But as soon as she picked up the phone, it became clear that what I’d taken for a possibly mundane topic was anything but to her. As soon as I mentioned the word, “tape,” she was off, listing her preferences for width, color, cut, edges, stickiness, and quality faster than I could type. As she put it, “I could really nerd out on tape.” As can most chefs, it turns out.

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Tape—or rather, the heated, controversial, back-of-house life of tape—came to our attention when we posted an Instagram of rows of pancakes. Above the the pancakes were torn pieces of blue painter’s tape denoting the differences between each row. And in the comments were objections: “Cut your labels properly @food52!” and “‘Super cute quirky handwriting doesn't offset sloppy torn kitchen tape.”

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“Being a chef is a lot like that, cutting the tape or not cutting the tape, using a sharpie, labeling properly and clearly, it doesn't exactly make the food better but it makes you better by being conscious of everything you do. That being said, I have recently been converted to painter's tape, and have always ripped the tape, mostly because I don't always have a scissor nearby. I put labels on top for catering (so I can see them easily while unpacking) and on the side when in restaurant kitchen. Always a sharpie.”
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As home cooks and food stylists we love that you can easily tear painter's tape, even one-handed when needed—so we needed to get to the bottom of this. When we brought the comments to the attention of our test kitchen chef, Josh Cohen, and his assistant chef that day, Chris Roberts, they dove into a rant that lasted the better part of an hour. In a kitchen, “everything grows out of the fertile soil that is tape,” Chris said.

The Tape Rule

At Piccolo in Minneapolis, where Chris once worked, cutting tape was the first thing you learned upon starting. "Tearing it was grounds for being fired," he told me, “service would be stopped entirely if it had been discovered that the Tape Rule had not been followed.”

Doug Flicker, the chef and owner of Piccolo (and Chris's boss), explained the Tape Rule to me:

“First and foremost, the tape has to get cut with a pair of scissors in a straight line, with a small tab folded over for ease of removal. On it should be written the product name, date, and initials of the person who packed the container.”

This Tape Rule was repeated almost verbatim by each chef I spoke with, with only a few moderations. Angela, for example, specified that once the tape has been cut and properly labeled, it has to be properly affixed one inch from the top of the quart container, and never at an angle.

Not following the Tape Rule in the Food52 pantry. Photo by Mark Weinberg

Size (and Quality) Matters

Once, while working an event, Chris recalled, an intern was sent to get more tape. “When he returned with the wrong width,” he told me, “everything stopped. Our manager had to apologize and promise an intern would never be sent for tape again.” Tape—it is universally understood by chefs—is to be no larger than 1-inch wide.

Angela, who special orders 3/4-inch tape (“You don’t need more space.”), always splurges on painter’s tape. “Masking tape,” Angela told me, “leaves a sticky residue when it’s torn off. And sometimes it won’t come off at all, so people will slap another piece on top.”

Everybody Has a Favorite Color (of Tape)

“Every restaurant has a color,” Angela said, “It’s definitely a thing.”

  • Momofuku uses orange (which is also the most expensive color because of its relative rarity).
  • Thomas Keller is known for his use of neon green tape (look closely and you can see it lining his kitchens). When I asked Doug what color of tape he uses, he answered, “French Laundry tape.”
  • Mission Chinese (and Food52!) uses blue: "We don't cook a lot of blue food," Angela said, "so it's always easy to spot."

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But Why?

At a small level, this attention to detail sounds ridiculous. “Saying it out loud, I sound so anal retentive,” Danny Amend, who has cooked at both French Laundry and Per Se, said. But put into perspective of a walk-in refrigerator during a fully-booked dinner service, it’s necessary. Josh told me, “Cooking is about mental clarity. If your mind is cluttered with the badly cut tape and the walk-in isn’t pristine, it isn’t going to work."

Tape also functions as a means of quality control, from the bottom up. Angela said that at each prep station is a bus bin for dirty containers. “If the labels in the bins haven’t been removed,” she said, “it’s because that person is rushing or nervous—it’s something we always look for.”

Photo by James Ransom

As Danny put it, “An attention to tape shows you’re paying attention to the quality of the food, including how you’re presenting your finished product.

For some, this respect is taken extremely literally. Chris refuses to eat at restaurants he knows are using cheap masking tape, but Doug said he wouldn’t go that far, then quickly added, “Though I certainly wouldn’t work in a kitchen where someone didn’t cut the tape.”

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218 Comments

Sheph November 9, 2018
I love this article and am using it in my class to better explain why we do what we do. #greentapemoments #culinaryedchat #culinaryed
 
Jeano April 26, 2021
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Katelong01 April 13, 2018
Bless your heart. Nerd out is right. If torn tape disurbs your Wah, cut away by all means. But remember, “post hoc ergo propter hoc” is a fallacy. Not everyone who makes good food is not OCD.
 
stourleyk November 10, 2020
“Because I cut my tape therefore I make good food” was not expressed here. I pay attention.
 
Steven W. November 27, 2017
I used to work in kitchens from steak houses to Rockefeller Resorts and I have never heard of people being that obsessed over tape...must be a recent thing.
 
Pisanella September 16, 2017
Is it just me? I try to uncheck the tick box so I don't get any more follow ups and yet again I'm getting notified of the latest comment! What is a person to do????
 
raymond D. September 16, 2017
They must have put tickertape on their brownie
 
tamater S. September 16, 2017
Pisanella, I came here to stop getting notices on this thread, and was able to uncheck the box.
 
raymond D. September 16, 2017
The tape reminds me of my first kitchen boss..he was a gem!
 
Victoria A. September 2, 2017
Blue tape all the way--it's especially useful as a band aid so thAt you can see it if it falls off...no one wants to find a regular band aide in their food.
 
Jeano April 26, 2021
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Steven W. September 1, 2017
32 years in the kitchen and I have always torn the tape. Relax people. I will agree that masking tape leaves a mess .
 
Jeano April 26, 2021
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Christopher S. July 31, 2017
So. . . . Day Dots are out?
 
Mia July 30, 2017
P.S. - every piece of tape pictured here was ripped, unless you're using jagged edge scissors.
 
Mia July 30, 2017
You can tear the tape people, chill out.
 
Rochelle W. July 29, 2017
I've used for decades what my mother always used while I was a child - freezer tape. It doesn't leave a sticky residue, it is easy to remove, adheres well and is (at least for me) the perfect thickness.....3/4". I guess if I want to have colors, I'll be scouting out the painters tape selection.
 
Jeano April 26, 2021
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David July 23, 2017
I had been looking for a way to label my foods in my kitchen (at home), and nothing seemed to work. Tape rolls were either too thick (2" duct tape), or stuck too much (masking tape), or were not efficient (clear tape). After reading this article, I realized I needed to be using painters tape. I went looking for a roll at my local hardware and office supplies stores. The blue tapes were too dark for my tastes. The green ones were way more expensive. I found a 1 1/2" thick roll of yellow painters tape and was intrigued. I brought it home and cut it in half (making 2 rolls 3/4" thick) on my bandsaw (admittedly, not a usual tool for most cooks/chefs). It was the right size and right color, but cumbersome to use, and not efficient in the effort required. Being that it is a 3" diameter hole in the middle, I went looking for one. The hardware stores only had hand-held tape dispensers - for huge rolls of packing tape to be used in sealing boxes. The office supplies store had 1, but it was over $30. So, I took some scrap plywood and cut pieces to make my own, including a 3" diameter wheel to be mounted in the middle. I took a broken jigsaw blade and mounted it in the tip of the dispenser, so I could pull-cut the tape just like we do a normal tape dispenser or a stretch of foil or plastic wrap. Then, I drilled a hole in the top so that I would have a permanent place to hold my marker.

Now, with one hand, I can pull a piece of tape, cut it, and apply it to the food container, and still use one hand to grab the marker and label the contents.

Now, my several full tea jugs are all labeled so that I know which tea is which. My homemade salad dressings and sauces are all labeled so that I know which one I am grabbing without having to open it for a smell. Things in the freezer are all labeled and dated.

In a professional kitchen with team members who are trained and follow strict guidelines for correctly placing food in their proper positions in the walk-in fridge or freezer, or pantry shelf, this might not be an issue. But, in a home, with 3 kids and a wife/spouse/partner, where everything gets moved around and pushed to the back of the fridge(s), there is no telling where things end up residing.

Having the labels is a real Godsend, and this article was an epiphany for me with regards to the proper labeling medium, and all I had to do was figure out an efficient dispensary. REGARDLESS of criticism by other readers, my success after reading this article is the BEST REASON to continue publishing such hintful articles. THANK YOU!!!
 
Jeano April 26, 2021
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Alexis V. July 23, 2017
This is a great article and conveys the need for clarity and professionalism in a kitchen. I worked as a kitchen assistant in an hotel restaurant for several years during my teens, and have carried those good labelling habits with me ever since. Content, amount, and date on packaging help me with my meal preps, rotations of frozen packages and much more Thank you.
 
Lisaaw July 23, 2017
I have been cooking for 32 yrs and if I had the time to use scissors to cut tape I still don't think I would. Honestly everything has a place in the walk in and for the most part during the rush it should be in a place where reading is not necessary. Having worked in locations that relied on generators for electricity I could find items in the dark based on putting them in their proper shelving order. I did work at a place that had sheets of stickers that worked really well as they would dissolve when washed. Really helpful as it was a large catering company where everything needed to be labeled and numbered. Also respectful to the dishwasher who did not need to remove labels that most cooks are too ignorant to do. The comments about not working at places due to their tape shows their age and level of experience. Edwin Cohen said it spot on "when you train your people not to be idiots". Guess what Chris and Doug I wouldn't hire or work with petty minded tape cooks!
 
tj August 5, 2017
Yeah, it's this new generation of Thomas Keller clones. There are many things that have gotten lost with the new Stepford Wives approach to restaurant management. In large part it happens because all the Thomas Keller restaurants primarily hire straight out of cooking school so they can make their staff drink the kool aid. Then their staff progresses and manages other places and opens other places and now there has been a wave of newer restaurant folk who look, talk and act like Per Se employees. They have their own banter. They have their own rules. Some of it is good and useful. I try not to hate them for it. Oysters and Pearls is still a very good dish.
 
Lisaaw July 23, 2017
I have been cooking for 32 yrs and if I had the time to use scissors to cut tape I still don't think I would. Honestly everything has a place in the walk in and for the most part during the rush it should be in a place where reading is not necessary. Having worked in locations that relied on generators for electricity I could find items in the dark based on putting them in their proper shelving order. I did work at a place that had sheets of stickers that worked really well as they would dissolve when washed. Really helpful as it was a large catering company where everything needed to be labeled and numbered. Also respectful to the dishwasher who did not need to remove labels that most cooks are too ignorant to do. The comments about not working at places due to their tape shows their age and level of experience. Edwin Cohen said it spot on "when you train your people not to be idiots". Guess what Chris and Doug I wouldn't hire or work with petty minded tape cooks!
 
BerryBaby July 23, 2017
I keep a roll of masking tape in the kitchen. Use it instead of chip clips and keeping bags of flour, sugar, sealed.
 
Jeano April 26, 2021
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edwin C. July 16, 2017
When you have to idiot proof your system, you are admitting you have an idiot system. The French Laundry can not be the standard, because only the 1% can afford it. I'm sure it is great to work there, but again it offers less that 1% of the jobs. When you train your people not to be idiots, and for everybody to know what is in the kitchen store it well you have it knocked. yea we will always have labels and dates. When everything goes into the weeds a smart well trained staff will help more than any label and date on a piece of tape that is cut off perfectly. As everybody should know now the really dangerous points of infection are out side the restaurant. We have a system were we admit the you can't trust the wholesomeness of out meats, chicken and eggs, more and more produce is also suspect.
 
djgibboni July 16, 2017
Yet another reason I'm thankful I cook at home, and not in a commercial kitchen. I can label how I want, not stir everything with tongs, and not have to wear long white sleeves while cooking.

Oh, and not have to put up with co-workers with serious OCD issues.
 
Ann-Marie D. July 16, 2017
Bravo to chefs that are showing the world excellence in everything they do.
 
Pat W. May 12, 2017
And some people think I'm anal-retentive because I label all my spices/herbs so the labels are all placed in the 'right' position and then I alphabetize them. Much easier to find then.
 
Helen S. May 12, 2017
That is different - that is smart! Keeps you from searching endlessly for a spice or herb. When we remodeled our kitchen I had a special cabinet that was only 5 inches deep and about 6" tall. It was fitted with glass shelves and all my spices, herbs, vinegars and other things were house there. Nothing got pushed to the back of a deep shelf and I could see everything at a glance.
 
David May 12, 2017
I made & attached wooden spice racks to the insides of the doors of my kitchen cabinets next to the stove. There is a single rack on top just a smidgen above the 3rd shelf, a single rack just above the 2nd shelf, and a double staggered rack above the bottom shelf - I have that on both doors that open facing each other. The bottom shelf has the 14 larger bottles (about 2 1/2" wide) of the spices I use - institutional size, and the racks have 46 of the regular household size bottles. I have no duplicates, and still have some homemade blends on the 2nd shelf that I need to redo my racks to include more space so I can fit them all, and there are still about 4-6 more that I need to buy, but I cannot seem to find Summer Savory at the stores!
 
BerryBaby July 23, 2017
I group mine...Italian, Mexican, Asian, etc. makes it easy say when I'm making Italian grab all the jars without having to hunt for them.
 
edwin C. May 12, 2017
What a pile of horse poop. My old chef Pierre would be rolling in his grave or just laughing hysterically. Most all of you'll just don't have enough to do. The very fact that the tape is mandated by the health department should tell us a lot. If you want to worry about something as why you still won't pay you're prep cooks and dishwasher a living wage?
 
Scarlet P. May 12, 2017
This reminds me of the classic, hilarious Phil Hartman (RIP) skits on SNL with the Anally Retentive Chef.
 
petalpusher July 23, 2017
Yes!!! This so reminds me that character! thank you!
We all have our quirks. I'm glad I don't require others to goosestep to mine!
 
QueenCeleste May 12, 2017
At the expense of sounding really, really stupid, I still don't understand what the tape is used for. Is it for marking pantry items? Is it for labeling prepped items? Can someone please educate me? Thanks!
 
pbf May 12, 2017
It seems to be about all those things. Think of it this way: a restaurant kitchens have many people doing many different jobs and all working at great speed. Safety in general and food safety, not to mention the quality of what they produce is of paramount importance. Each person needs to know the ingredients, date and who made something that is stored in the refrigerator, or is part of a mis en place. This is as much about food safety as anything else: Does this sauce contain nuts? Is this something with raw egg that should be in the refrigerator but has been left out on the counter? Is this baking soda or baking powder? Stuff like that. So having containers of food items clearly labeled is important. The importance that chefs ascribe to HOW the tape is cut, applied and the order of the labeling is about a different matter. It is about discipline, orderlyness (is that a word?), focus and and understanding that as teams of people work together there must be a common understanding of how things are done. As I said in my comment below -- it is a gateway task setting the standard for how all things should be done in that environment.
 
pbf May 12, 2017
I don't think this article was pedantic or anal retentive as some respondents claim. I think the point isn't the tape, but rather what it conveys about each person in a team doing their tasks with focus and quality. It is a very old and established teaching technique: set the student a very simple task and expect it to be done with precision, discipline and focus. It shouldn't be surprising that this one very simple task has the ability to set the tone for everything else that follows. So in professional kitchens it seems to be how tape is applied. It could just as easily be another very basic task, but the point is that everyone who works there knows there is a standard of performance that they are expected to adhere (no pun intended) to in all their tasks. It just so happens that how tape is applied and labeled is the gateway task to that understanding. This is an approach that can be applied to all situations and in fact it does work. Try it at home -- set a very specific manner of doing something you do every day -- perhaps make a bed -- and see if it doesn't encourage you to be more focused as you make it and -- even more important you will notice that you become more focused on other tasks as well. Is it possible to cut and apply and label the tape in a precise way and then go on to be a slob in the kitchen? Yes, but then that person hasn't absorbed the actual lesson.
 
Martin May 12, 2017
One could then argue that just as it is possible to cut and apply a label in a precise way and be a slob, so could the opposite be true. You don't have to be obsessed with tape to be a good chef.
 
pbf May 12, 2017
I agree with you which is why I say that it isn't the tape itself that is the issue, it is the mindfulness of a relatively simple task which is repeated frequently that is a training device. Although it is necessary to label containers of food, it doesn't need to be so precisely done to accomplish the issues of identification or food safety. But by saying to everybody in a restaurant or catering kitchen that this simple task will be done by everyone in the same way and with the same mindful precision it trains people to think in similar ways. And restaurant kitchens function by teamwork. An individual can be a terrific chef in his or her own right, but a restaurant cannot be a great restaurant without this teamwork. It is the same way in the armed forces. Someone may be a hell of a shot with a rifle, but without teamwork, he can't be effective in the army, for example. And the army is all about these sorts of gateway training patterns. Why do soldiers have to learn how to make their beds in a specific way and to a very high level of perfection? Surely war aren't won or lost by counting up which side has the best made beds. But where teamwork and training count, then teaching all the participants to think in ways of doing things is essential. It's not about the tape, it's about the training.
 
David May 12, 2017
I LOVE this article. As my family meal cooker, I have struggled to find a labeling system that was consistent and worked effortlessly. I have used making tape that has resulted in the use of Goo-Be-Gone to remove the residue. I've used "Scotch" tape that is a pain to remove and tears. I've used temporary tape that falls off in the freezer leaving containers unmarked and a stack of labels on the shelf below. I have used bookbinding tape, but it is 2" wide and a pain to get a reasonable sized piece onto the container. And, I've used blue painters tape with excellent results except that I do not like the dark color in contrast to the black Sharpie used to print the info.

This is the first information I have found, other than my own, personal, research (attempts to label effectively). While I use the white rolls of label tape that print with black letters for my spice rack and home canned products, I have struggled with the frozen stuff for years. Now that I have read your article, I am going to look for a light colored painters tape and get a dispenser to hold it!

Despite all the negative Nancys reviewing your article to put it down, my epiphany based clarity is well worth your effort. Thank you!
 
Jeano April 26, 2021
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Westcoasty May 12, 2017
After commenting last time, I have since watched the episode of A Cook's Tour where Anthony Bourdain eats at French Laundry. The precise placement of tape is undoubtedly part of the way that they achieve brilliance. By removing all extraneous detail and any need to "hunt" for the necessary information, nothing gets in the way of creating a state of "flow" while cooking.
 
ace May 11, 2017
lol the comments are funny. I thought it was ridiculous too until I staged at a kitchen & I ripped the tape & all the prep cooks froze. She told me I had to cut the tape. I thought it was wild but it was a part of the standard the Chef had. Everything does look a lot neater, cleaner & easier to read. When I went back to the original kitchen I worked in, I was annoyed she was using masking tape. horrible! literally it doesn't come off, difficult to come off & it leaves a sticky resdue. They compalined the blue tape was too expensive but the quality of the food was medicore & her food cost was high. So if tape is too expeinsive & "cutting" into your budegt, then you're doing something wrong. Good article but this is exactly how tough kitchens are ran.
 
Zero May 11, 2017
Holy shit this has to be the most pedantic article I've seen here. Who the fuck cares of your tape is at an article. I'd rather have someone focus on the quality of their food over the alignment of their tape.
 
Westcoasty May 12, 2017
But this is about achieving quality food. The commenters who compare it to a surgical theatre are correct. This habit of precision is essential.
 
Susan May 11, 2017
All I can say is, "Get a life! Tape happens in busy kitchens and I'd rather have torn tape smacked at an angle on that freezer container (PUT A DATE ON THAT TAPE, TOO! DAMN IT!), plopped on the toothpick that warns of truffles in the stuffing or anchovies on this particular pizza.
 
Rita M. May 11, 2017
I checked the date on this to make sure it wasn't dated April 1. Seriously??? You have time to worry abo th. I'm happy we remember to label things and adds date.
 
Annette May 11, 2017
FYI, they do make tape dispensers in all sizes for all kinds of tape. They make a perfect tearoff. They are weighted and you only have to use 1 hand. You could even mount it to a wall, if you have someone handy around. I have one in my lab for labeling my media (almost like a kitchen!)
 
Jeano April 26, 2021
Annette, your comment on kitchen tape made me think how this was made for you! www.kitchenstickin.com.
 
Maryann H. May 11, 2017
Yikes! I went to a professional baking school and we were never taught this! I'm not a cooking professional, but I'm glad to know this.
 
Jeano April 26, 2021
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jonathanmorris May 11, 2017
The other thing it implies, both implicit and explicit, is that you have standards down to the smallest detail . For example some of the best chefs I trained under were almost OCD with the food purveyors. When the purveyed left they would say I really didn't care about that but I want them to know I have high standards down to where they think they can put the box and in now way are they ever going to bring me anything but the best off the truck. Sometimes being a stickler in how eggs are stacked or labels are written or how the line is set up has a secondary purpose in that it sets the bar high for even the smallest of details
 
Bobbie G. May 11, 2017
I came here to say exactly that, but you said it better. 😊
 
Jeano April 26, 2021
Cool Jonathan..you understand getting kitchen tape right. your comment made me think how this was made for you! www.kitchenstickin.com.
 
jonathanmorris May 11, 2017
I completely disagree I am currently a neuroradiologist but used to be a chef for 12 years and tape was of utmost importance. A well organized walk in, work station, and receiving area were the most important thing to start with. Everything else was after the tape. We definitely fired someone for repeat tape offenses. The kitchens when I worked there was a brigade and everyone needed to be focused and well organized. Things like tape, cleanliness of your cuffs and collar were of such importance as it told you something about the quality of the kitchen and the person. It is funny as things like this come up in my medical practice . You have to present yourself, your staff, your office space in a well organized professional manner as it tells the patients something about you before they even meet you.
 
FS May 11, 2017
I should worry about tape now? Will a bunch of OCD celeb chefs inspect my kitchen to check on my labeling habits? Of all the things on my mind, tape treatment isn't very high on the list.
 
Helen S. May 11, 2017
Unbelievable that you would take up so much space to talk about anal retentive chefs that cut their tape and their ridiculous reasons for doing it. What a waste of space. Since I haven't been reading your column very log I had no idea you ran it before. Certainly you had better information to share!!
 
Penny H. May 11, 2017
If you're talking about a commercial kitchen here I can see the point but the torn versus cut argument seems way silly. In a home kitchen I'd hope that the cook knew what she was doing and didn't need to label each product or ingredient. That's just silly.
 
Jeano April 26, 2021
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Rustin C. May 11, 2017
In all of the years I worked in kitchens I have never heard of this stupid rule. I guess the problem wasn't an uncaring staff or psychotic owners, I was just using tape the wrong way.
Thank God I got out when I did.
 
Deborah K. May 11, 2017
Interesting article. Chefs remind me very much of surgeons, who can be extremely picky about what is in their sterilization trays, how the OR is set up, etc. In that case, of course, true life-and-death emergencies can depend heavily on how efficiently your equipment is laid out and how well things are labeled. A kitchen is just where people make food, at the end of the day, even if it's a professional kitchen.
 
Greenstuff May 11, 2017
I'm not sure why you decided to run this one again. But I have noticed that since running it the first time, you have not started to cut your tape! I've also been assured by one of your editors that she knows that dark writing on blue tape does not photograph so well, so, while I don't mind your tearing, I'm hoping for yellow soon!
 
dianeleigh May 11, 2017
You ran this article before.
 
Martin May 11, 2017
I have to agree with those who see this as a non-issue. "If your mind is cluttered with badly cut tape" the end of the sentence should be, "you have too much time on your hands." So you're saying that the ones who carried out the pancake tests were not professionals because they didn't cut the tape? Maybe cookies aren't good because they are not perfectly round? I find it ridiculous.
 
judy May 11, 2017
Well, I was going to comment on how useless this article was----UNTIL I read the comments. Makes some sense, now. orderliness in one area reflects orderliness -or lack thereof- in other areas. And in the Kitchen, where food is being served to others, it seems that this type of orderliness would follow in other areas. I know in my home kitchen I do have some certain rules, and woe-be-tide anyone who violates them. And I'm not even a professional. So this was fun reading, comments and all!!
 
David May 11, 2017
woe betide anyone who writes “woe-be-tide” :)
 
Jeano April 26, 2021
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All this goes to show is how much restaurant cooking is controlled by superstition and aping ones predecessors with facile justifications.
See also: all the rules Italians insist that Americans have bad taste for not following.
 
PieceOfLayerCake May 6, 2017
“Cooking is about mental clarity. If your mind is cluttered with the badly cut tape and the walk-in isn’t pristine, it isn’t going to work." That's less of a TAPE issue and more of a YOU issue. I've worked with more chefs that blame their ridiculous pet peeves and "perfectionism" on other people than I can count. It's TAPE people. The rule in our kitchen is, the tape must be on the side of the container, and the side with the tape on it must be facing out so it can be read. Other than that...use a big piece, use a small piece, put it high, put it in the middle, just use it. The fact that people fuss over it being cut with scissors just reminds me of why some chefs think what they're doing is so incredibly important. It's the same sense of ego that makes them treat their staff with self-justified disrespect. This is a control issue, not a professional issue. There's nothing "professional" about being needlessly fussy and nothing "unorganized" about tape with uneven edges.
 
PieceOfLayerCake May 6, 2017
Aside from that....fabulous article ;)
 
X May 11, 2017
Very well said! I couldn't agree more.
 
Jeano April 26, 2021
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TraceyH May 5, 2017
I love this article!
 
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Pisanella June 6, 2016
Oh dear. Well I suppose there's nothing quite like keeping a sense of proportion about such trivia.
 
tamater S. June 6, 2016
What's trivia to one might not be trivia to another, snowmoonelk, and the ones who choose to have the conversation have the right to do so, without bully-ish type comments that could be make in a much nicer way. Or let the ones who think it's trivia move on, and leave the others to express their views to one another. There's too much bully on the net these days, ok?
 
Martin May 11, 2017
So a conversation should only be held by those of the same opinion?
 
Pisanella June 5, 2016
We use labels in our kitchen. Much neater, but really WHO CARES???!!!
 
tamater S. June 5, 2016
People who work in very large, very busy restaurant kitchens.
 
Tell me one single way a ragged edge makes a dinner rush more difficult.
Meanwhile, I have a thousand ways that these needlessly specific and onerous rules can drive a kitchen deeper into the weeds.
 
Martin May 11, 2017
Exactly! Ripping cannot take more time than cutting.
 
stacy C. June 3, 2016
i loved reading this article. being ultra organized may seem pretentious to some but i value it in a restaurant whose food i am putting into my body. sloppiness in the kitchen translates into sloppy food and i have no interest in eating that. dropping f bombs, as ms. nikita did 12 days ago, is completelely unnecessary. Foul language only serves to make her look childish and mean-spirited. I am appalled that ms. nikita would post such a comment.
 
tamater S. June 3, 2016
After working in 'fly by the seat of your pants 'kitchens, I found working in ultra-organized kitchens to be such luxury that I decided never again again to work in the former type.
 
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Lisha June 3, 2016
I am a self taught Food-Stylist & starting culinary school at Hofstra University in the fall,I do have some slight OCD issues & altho this may seem absurbed to alot of people anyone with a hair of professionalism can appreciate this article for it's informative views on what's expected by working under or for Chefs who have a regime for running their establishments & kitchens,Organization can be helpful without being overly imposing on staff & Employees,What i see as a plus too many may come off as pretentious to another,But Lets remember that pride in your craft comes with great presentation & I think as long as there is a team effort & system that works & everyone is on the same page,That spells success ..Isn't that worth labeling & keeping a neat appearance for all concerned?
 
Traveler June 6, 2016
Does your penchant for organization and pride also follow you to good spelling and grammar in other parts of your life? Your comment was very sloppy in both areas. Hard for me to reconcile.
 
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SandraM June 3, 2016
Wow. I had no idea tape was that important. I have been using washi tape in my home kitchen. I never thought about restaurants needing it too. But it makes sense to be uniform and orderly. A very interesting read!
 
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Traveler June 3, 2016
Not having ever worked in the food industry, I didn't even know that tape was such an important kitchen utensil, much less that size, color, type of pen, etc. were so important. Rather than have tape and scissors at each station, why not pre-cut the tape and have these available at each station, rather than doing it one-at-a-time as it appears happens. Then they are all uniform in size and beautifully cut, not torn. Just write on it and put it on the container.
 
Constanza M. May 23, 2016
Excellent! Now I don't feel the only crazy person in this world. I have a vintage style labeler, one of those that make raised letters, and I love using it for all of my containers.
 
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Andie P. May 22, 2016
A friend of mine owns a bakery/café and a neat little BROTHER label printer that prints on tapes of different colors - also clear, different widths and they always look neat and PROFESSIONAL.
I also have one to label things in my pantry, freezer, fridge and wherever else it is appropriate and necessary.
These are not expensive and as appearance is important, every kitchen should have one - every home that seeks to be organized should have one.
 
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Kevin M. May 22, 2016
To all those who think this is over the top and doesn't concern food, process is key to efficiency and results. I learned long ago in managing people in work situations that if left undefined each person will come up with his/her own method of doing things which forces everyone with whom they work to figure out each of those various methods - not good. As long as one process is well defined and produces good results, it should be adhered to. It also provides an excellent litmus test to learn whom can be depended upon to work well with a team and who cannot, for whatever reason.
 
zaqary May 22, 2016
I worked in Antarctica and have had to teach folks new to the industry the value of labeling properly (name, date, allergens, placement and pull tabs). And I taught an executive chef the value of painters tape for his dishwashers (masking tape is a nightmare to remove, especially after being frozen or heated).

The point being safety, efficiency and employee satisfaction.
 
tamater S. May 22, 2016
That's what I'm talkin' about!
 
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Nikita May 22, 2016
This article is the very definition of first world problems. Give me a fucking break.
 
tamater S. May 22, 2016
Don't be shy, tell us how ya really feel. ;-)
 
Heather Z. June 3, 2016
No, this is the very definition of professional kitchen problems. Seems as though you've never worked BOH.
 
Vevette C. June 3, 2016
Nikita, you are brilliant!
 
Martin May 11, 2017
It is the first thought that entered my head.
 
Rita M. May 11, 2017
Well said.
 
James S. April 29, 2016
I have been cutting the tape since reading this article. It really does make life easier for everyone, especially the poor soul in the dish pit. I thought it was just another chefie affectation, but its worth the small trouble.
 
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John March 7, 2016
I work in kitchens. Cutting tape with scissors at a perfect 90 degree angle is the most pretentious bullshit in existence. Sure it's nice to have neat labels on your food and not to waste tape. How about ripping the tape manually, but do it neatly. And anyone who can't have a good service because the walking isn't in pristine condition has severe mental issues, and has no business cooking your food.
 
aaa February 21, 2016
I will definitely make sure not to ever patronize a place with management that has such a sh*tty attitude. In case any of you pretentious owners are reading this: we customers care only about the food!
 
christine C. February 21, 2016
I love you so much right now ?
 
Heather Z. June 3, 2016
Preparing your food well goes hand in hand with an organized and clean kitchen.
 
KateAlfano February 17, 2016
This has been true for all the restaurants I've worked in! As for the comments about searching for the tape/ scissors, there were usually pairs at each station and the color (we used blue) makes it easy to spot. It was rather nice to go into the walk-in and not have to fuss about finding something in a pinch because everything was labeled so well.
 
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mrp55 February 12, 2016
I have been using blue painter's tape forever to label leftovers - to include the date stored! I don't have any other rules.
 
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Lea February 12, 2016
How on earth does french laundry tape work for labeling in the kitchen?
 
mary February 18, 2016
Doug's comment is referring to the neon green tape that Thomas Keller uses at his restaurant called French Laundry.
he must also use neon green tape like at French Laundry
 
cheryllk February 11, 2016
I thought I was the only one who cared about labels in the kitchen/pantry/freezer. (I'm a home cook.) I've always used Avery 5160 address labels. Uniform. Easy to place and remove. White. Now I covet green. But then the Sharpie writing wouldn't show up well. (NEVER use a label machine.) So I'll stay with my 5160s.
 
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rickwoodland February 9, 2016
This is satire, right??? THey spend this much time worrying about cutting tape? No wonder why so many of these places have the most overpriced, overvalued food stuff in America. Wait until someone sees the emperor has no clothes! lol. I think 'overwrought' would be another term for the work going on behind the food at these places.....
 
Nob February 8, 2016
Never in my 21 years in the kitchen have I seen tape cut with scissors. Usually it take some looking to find the tape. Now I have to waste more time looking for scissors? Tape tears perfectly fine with your hands. Absurd article
 
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Scribbles February 8, 2016
I use tape to label all my containers - love it, it's efficient and effective. I didn't think about doing the tabs for easy removal and I will start now...thanks for the article.
 
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X February 8, 2016
I was both an Executive Chef and a Pastry Chef at 2 different country clubs for a total of 15 years and I couldn't have cared less if tape was torn, pasted in just the right spot, or was of any particular width or color. Prep cooks have enough of a workload without being forced to waste time making pretty labels. What really mattered to me was that containers were labeled with the correct (and legible) information, and that the kitchen was spotlessly clean and well organized. The same went for the work habits of my staff. Turning out great food (mass quantities at times) was what was most important. If a chef has time to nitpick about tape, they probably ought to check their priorities.

I vowed while working my way up to being a chef that I would never be like the ones I worked for-- arrogant, pretentious jerks, on a power-trip. I found that If you're good to your staff, they'll most likely be happy with their job, and will want to work hard to keep it, and happy employees means happy customers. Making petty and ridiculous demands does not make for happy employees.
 
bernie N. February 12, 2016
Sam as a retired chef of 45 years I couldnt agree with you more..clean kitchen honest food and working with the staff...thats what makes a great kitchen
 
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kgw February 7, 2016
That shot of all the those people in white staring at Thomas Keller's spoon was worth reading this article!
 
Laura415 February 7, 2016
I think the chef in the picture is Daniel Boulud.
 
Leslie S. February 8, 2016
Yes, it is Daniel Boulud (but he is in Thomas Keller's kitchen!)
 
kgw February 8, 2016
Doppelpgänger!
 
Laura415 February 9, 2016
Oh ok since it was in TK's kitchen then it is his spoon:))
 
tamater S. February 7, 2016
I'm not a trained chef, but I've worked in all sorts of kitchens. I'm not OCD; my house isn't always perfect - it just depends upon what's going on in my life. I've worked in the kitchens that have such organized ways as I read about here, and IMO, those are the best places to work. All the little things add up in the end. If you're looking at shelves on walls and coolers all day, the tidiest ones have, on a subliminal level, a calming effect.
As to being on time, well that just shows respect for your job, and the other people who work there. If it can be overlooked for one person to be 10 minutes late, then why not for everybody? And then why not 15 minutes? Being routinely late seems passive-agressive, wanting to be the one in control...saying it's ok for me, because I'm happy to work overtime, or take a shorter break, it's the same as saying "I'm going to make the rules around here." And then why wouldn't everyone be able to make their own rules? It doesn't sound like the kind of person who makes a great team member.
 
Tamar J. February 7, 2016
I'm an executive pastry chef and this article forgot to mention DO NOT TAKE ANOTHER STATIONS TAPE! The culinary station is always stealing our tape when they do that they slow down service and lower efficiency!
 
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lauriw February 7, 2016
I thought this provided a fascinating little insight into some professional kitchens. Surprising and a little ridiculous how heated some of the commenters have been. If you don't have to work in the particular kitchen, I can't see why it's so offensive how a chef cares to run it.
 
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kim February 7, 2016
It's very similar to the Van Halen dressing rider specifying no green M&Ms. The theory is that if the promoter can't get something small like that done correctly, how do you trust them to hang thousands of pounds of lighting and steel truss above people's heads, or build a safe stage that won't collapse.....which really does matter if you are standing under or on those things!
 
tamater S. February 7, 2016
I was thinking about that, just as I got to your letter!
 
James S. February 7, 2016
I work as a prep cook. I tear the tape. Fire me.
But now I will make tabs.
Maybe there is a twelve step program for us tearers.
 
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Sharon H. February 7, 2016
While I very much appreciate and get the "mindfulness" aspect.....a little too much information, perhaps. And, hey - people are starving.
 
2tattered May 11, 2017
This isn't the arena in which to address starving people. Find your own venue.
 
JoelSnyder February 7, 2016
It may not be allowed here (since Food52 wants to make money from ads and advertising someone else's web site is probably a no-no), but we buy tape from the Good Buy Guys (you can figure out the domain...) which is a tape fetishist superstore. Most particularly valuable, for those of you who think that awful blue stuff is acceptable, is the white (WHITE, not off-white) tape that is sold specifically for audio shows. It is placed on mixers, then written on, then pulled off. Unlike painters' tape, it doesn't attach itself permanently if you ignore it too long, and it is thick and solid. Try searching for Shurtape 724 "Console Tape" and you will never use blue or orange tape again.
They also sell a lovely neon-colored heavy cloth tape in various widths for those who need to easily color-code and identify things in a dark freezer.
 
nizarala February 12, 2016
Thank you, this is very helpful! What is the name of the freezer tape?
 
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Westcoasty February 7, 2016
I found this article extremely interesting. It makes sense that an employee who can't follow directions about such a small detail may skip other small details too. And speaking as someone who was an executive assistant for many years - what the boss wants, the boss gets. I take pride in my ability to meticulously follow such instructions. I am puzzled as to why so many commenters are outraged by the idea of cutting the tape or using a particular width or colour. As far as I'm concerned, I'm dealing with those details so the boss can focus on what he or she does best. If you can't see the point, then don't take the job.
 
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NotTooSweet February 7, 2016
If the rule is clearly defined at the start of a job, and you have agreed to take the job then you are now obligated to do the job as promised. I personally could not care less if the tape is torn or cut, neat or messy - however, it's not my restaurant. They are not being asked to do something dangerous or even difficult, just something that could be seen as a bit OCD or could be viewed as an indicator of a meticulously run kitchen. For me, the bottom line is whether those working in the kitchen are aware of what the expectations are before they sign on the dotted line.
 
Tessa February 7, 2016
I worked at a restaurant and had to label containers of food every day. There is no need for all of this fussiness. You can buy huge rolls of pre-printed stickers (that are cheap) that you just add the product name, date and your initials on it, takes only a few seconds, slap it in the container and you're done. Best part is that they peel right off leaving no sticky residue and if there ever was a situation where the container got pretty warm and the glue stuck on it a little bit you just need to soak it in hot water for a couple minutes and it wipes clean off. This pickiness is just ridiculous and wastes valuable time in the kitchen. It's hilarious that Momofuku only uses expensive orange tape.. Way to waste money! I'll make sure to never eat there or any other restaurant that cares more about the color and straight cut lines of their tape rather than putting all their attention on the ONLY thing that matters: THE FOOD!!!

I love Food52 but this is worst article you guys have ever posted and reading the other comments proves that nobody cares about this topic. Whoever the people were that complained about the blue 3M tape you guys used in the pancake photos obviously have NOTHING else going on in their pathetic useless lives so they have to complain about anything just to make themselves feel better. How sad. Best thing to do is completely ignore those people. Let them go complain elsewhere and please Food52 focus on the FOOD!
 
BrainSturtz February 7, 2016
Yeah it's overboard. I know this all too well. But underlying the seemingly insignificant "tape rule" is a degree of order that, believe it or not, strengthens a kitchen and its efficiency.

Chefs spend more time than you could possibly calculate in their work environment. It's not unreasonable to allow them a few idiosyncratic tendencies. Feeling like you have control over your kitchen goes a loooong way when you're there 70 hrs a week or more.
 
RHo February 7, 2016
Because of this comment, can we be besties?!!
 
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Robert R. February 5, 2016
Just make my steak MR and shut your pie holes, most of you "chefs" can't even do that right.
 
Alexandra H. February 4, 2016
Favorite. Food52. Article . Ever!
 
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genevieve February 4, 2016
Iron tape doesn't even come close to the annoyance of people whistling in the kitchen
 
John B. February 4, 2016
Hey dumbasses - just buy the wash-off rolls off labels you vendor sells - they're neat, clean, easily readable
and yes, they wash right off so the container can be easily labeled again - this whole article is a bunch of crazy
 
Vinny A. February 3, 2016
Completely ridiculous....That is an OCD problem. You label hundreds of things a day...write a label, tear it off, stick it on the container....simple. Too much time being wasted for useless fussiness....Chefs work too many hours as it is...no need wasting an extra half an hour or more of time each day cutting and applying "tape rules" . Pay attention to the food.
 
allie February 4, 2016
Do you really think the chefs are doing that tape work themselves? No.
 
Darian D. February 4, 2016
Yes if they are good chefs. That's what is wrong with the industry we are in, firing someone over tape...shit like this is what makes people with potential not want to continue...this whole macho I'll fire you for breathing the wrong way sentiment is what kills kitchens
 
christine C. February 4, 2016
Thank You!...
 
lalahartma February 3, 2016
Scary.
 
Branden L. February 3, 2016
Dissolvable labels.
 
Sam L. February 3, 2016
Laughing so hard at reading this! Huge & hysterical brawl in a kitchen I was briefly a part of this summer when the chef insisted the tape be cut and I refused. If he could have fired me, he totally would have. The only point of taping is to label the food within in, date, and initial. There is no reason to cut it and if that's wrong, I don't want to be right. Blue tape is totally worth the extra expense and folding an edge over for easy removal is a must. However, I do believe that if you are labeling a container, you are also responsible for removing the label before tossing it in the dish pit - be kind to your dishwasher. it's the little things that can mean the world in the madness that is the restaurant. That chef is the one that re-posted this article so at least I know I made a memorable impression on him.
 
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Essentialchef February 3, 2016
I use gaffers tape from the film industry, mostly because i had several rolls leftover from my past career. I color code when I have several projects but I like red, I find it easy to find. Whatever has the red tape on it has been prepped. If packaging goes into a dishwasher, the label stays on and doesnt get gummy and still comes off easily after. For my personal chef clients, I use small postits. I found that clients like them to look neat and clean (of course!) and they dont want to try to peel something.
 
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Blair C. February 3, 2016
I am a personal chef and I label my client's meals with 3M Blue Painter's tape. The day I can find a proper label that comes off my containers as easily and without residue, I will switch. Until then, it's painter's tape all the way. The love is real!
 
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Aliwaks February 3, 2016
Reading this article and all the comments reminds me of a conversation I once had with a orthodox Rabbi, its not that G-d cares if we mix milk and meat or linen and flax or if we say the correct prayer before eating one thing or another, it's that every action is a conscious one and that we are reminded of who we are in every moment. Being a chef is a lot like that, cutting the tape or not cutting the tape, using a sharpie, labeling properly and clearly, it doesn't exactly make the food better but it makes you better by being conscious of everything you do. That being said, I have recently been converted to painter's tape, and have always ripped the tape, mostly because I don't always have a scissor nearby. I put labels on top for catering (so I can see them easily while unpacking) and on the side when in restaurant kitchen. Always a sharpie.
 
allie February 4, 2016
I appreciated this reminder about mindfulness and presence, thanks.
 
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Francis February 3, 2016
So awesome how my chef-tendencies sparked this article! I recently worked at a place where they used regular beige masking tape, which left residue and sometimes wasn't able to completely come off due to heat even after being scrubbed heavily. I eventually left the place because of it (also among many other things.)
 
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Erin T. February 3, 2016
Where is Phil Hartman's anal retentive chef when you need him?
 
Pete February 7, 2016
he was murdered by his wife
 
Nancy February 3, 2016
3 notes to Leslie:
Agree, this is a fun (and serious) article.
I notice the topic is a lightning rod - no one is neutral.
Photo use and clarity of purpose? Why are you showing a photo posted by Chef Keller of what appears to be Chef Boulud plating in an article about tape and walk-in fridges? Please provide a caption or a better choice of photo.
 
Leslie S. February 3, 2016
Hi Nancy, I chose that shot of Boulud in Keller's kitchen because it shows Keller's green tape clearly.
 
Nancy February 3, 2016
Thanks for response, but I don't see it. Maybe pic is too small on my browser...
 
Mary E. February 3, 2016
On the edge of the table.
 
amysarah February 3, 2016
I didn't spot the tape at first, but the photo seemed relevant to me in illustrating the idea of a high level of meticulousness in the kitchen: a famously exacting chef showing his team precisely how he expects something to be done.
 
Craig February 4, 2016
Perhaps we define clearly differently, Leslie. The only green, I can clearly make out in that photo, resides on the kitchen towel in the foreground. If your assertion is that those four bits of chartreuse on the left edge of the table are Keller's green tape, I suppose I'll take your word for it. Nevertheless, I quite enjoyed your article.
 
LeBec F. February 3, 2016
leslie, this is hysterical! Good job!
 
702551 February 2, 2016
In a Commonwealth Club interview several years ago, Gordon Ramsay said that he asked new cooks to be on time to work, actually about 10 minutes before their shifts started. He said he could teach anyone how to bone a chicken or filet a fish, but he couldn't teach character and asking someone to be punctual was a good test of character.

More than some silly OCD exercise, this is probably a similar test of character.

The chef asks you to do a simple thing, something he wants done where he is in charge.

This basically tests whether or not the new cook can follow simple instructions and their character. If you need to speak up about how tape doesn't matter because no customers see it, that might be an indicator that you might not be so cautious about food handling safety, steak doneness, washing all the dirt out of salad greens, cutting off bug-eaten leaves, etc. If you don't follow the chef's simple request, how is he/she going to be convinced that you are going to follow far more complicated instructions on recipe execution or care about the smallest details?

You might be the greatest line cook that ever walked through the door of the chef's restaurant, but he/she isn't going to know that and they need to figure out quickly if you have a future working in the role for which you were hired.

That's the crux of this cut tape exercise.
 
christine C. February 2, 2016
Gordon Ramsey. Perfect example of the type of character that does not belong in a leadership position, in a kitchen or anywhere else. People watch his shows and think that bullying, degrading, and disrespecting the men and women you work with is just ok in the kitchen. I've worked with food my entire life and that type of attitude does not belong in a workplace, ever. A person can become wildly successful by walking on the backs of those beneath them. If that management style appeals to you, knock yourself out. Once again, there is a difference between being exacting and having high standards, and just liking to threaten the people beneath you with termination because it just makes you feel SOOO important and talented.
Do you ask that your staff label neatly in whatever way your establishment prefers? Yes. Do you hold them to that standard? Yes. If you have to let it be know that an infraction this small is a firable offense then you have no respect for the people you are in charge of. There are better ways to lead people than by threatening their job over, everything... Restaurant work is some of the most demanding work there is, and some of the least rewarded. You. Do. Not. Take a person's job from them for tearing tape instead of cutting it. If the chef just can't stop twitching until all the labels are cut and not torn, then you tell them to fix it, and you tell them to fix it until the habit sticks. Why? Because you respect them enough to have that much patience with them. Then you have earned that respect in return.
 
LeBec F. February 3, 2016
yes. absolutely.
 
702551 February 3, 2016
You really don't get it. It's not that Gordon Ramsay is a pillar of superb behavior. I just pointed out one of his comments that relates to this tape obsession thing.

Fine, you hate Gordon. That's great. I don't care for him or his show much either. But he does have a point about punctuality and character tests.

Again, there's no practical reason for chefs to demand young cooks to cut labeling tape. This is a simplistic character test. We all know that the shape of the tape on the outside of a storage container doesn't have a direct correlation with the quality of the ingredients inside. That's not the point. That's not why chefs who have this seeming inane stipulation are doing it.
 
rachiti February 3, 2016
I'm loyal to a fault. I strive to improve each and every day. I'm OCD in terms of keeping things organized and tidy. However, I am always about 10 minutes late to work. It simply is. Judging me solely based upon my tardiness would be completely missing the mark. Being on time is the only thing that I can't do. Once I'm at work, I'm theirs - I'll stay late, I'll come in on my days off, I'll follow directions or offer creative solutions (depending on my position/status etc.) but I cannot ever be on time.
 
christine C. February 3, 2016
Did you really read my response? I have no problem with having that type of standard. I have a big problem with enforcing that standard in a disrespectful and unfair manner. Your crew is valuable and you treat them as such wether there are lines out the door filled with people waiting to replace them or not. You do not threaten to fire your staff over something that small.
I was tempted to agree with you about neatness and punctuality being indicators of superior character and talent, but I thought about it and now I don't think I can. Using Ramsay as an example, it sounds like he's very fastidious, but in my opinion he does not belong in a leadership position anywhere ever. That's a pretty big flaw and you can't tell me that won't affect the quality of the output of a high end kitchen. Put simply, excelence and good character can be found in many different types of working styles. We could throw examples at each other all day. You can be a fabulous chef and be extremely anal retentive, or you can be fabulous and have all the flaws that often accompany people who are highly creative and unstable. Either way, cutting the tape isn't always an indicator of excellence, and being late isn't always an indicator of a sub par character. But treating your staff like they are disposable, and threatening someone's source of income over something that small and trainable is always an indicator of someone you do not want to work for, or with.
 
Negative N. February 3, 2016
You do realize that the Ramsey you see on tv is probably not the Ramsey that works in a kitchen??
 
Deanna S. February 4, 2016
rachiti: Yes... yes you can, if you just would. YOU are choosing not to be on time by saying, "I am never on time. I will never be on time. Being on time is something I can't do". You are choosing to be late.
And you piss a lot of people off in doing so. It's VERY disrespectful to others who make time for you.
 
rachiti February 4, 2016
My response was to the original poster not a response to your response. I apologize for my tiny sluggish ancient tablet not stopping at the correct arrow.
 
cricket23 February 4, 2016
"Judging me solely based upon my tardiness would be completely missing the mark." Rachiti, unfortunately you don't get to decide other people's marks. All your good qualities might not be worth your employer's stress having to wonder whether you're a no-show each day or your co-workers' annoyance at having to start your work without you (and believe me, they're annoyed). The funny thing is you'd be annoyed too, if you just had to deal with someone who was always ten minutes later than you.
 
Negative N. February 4, 2016
And if you say "10 minutes late", it's probably more like 15-30 minutes late.
 
702551 February 5, 2016
Oops, my bad. Hahaha!

It was Anthony Bourdain who was the Commonwealth Club interviewee, not Gordon Ramsay.

It was Bourdain who asked new cooks to be punctual. The interview can be found here:

http://www.commonwealthclub.org/events/archive/podcast/anthony-bourdain-chef-author-tv-host-%E2%80%9Cno-reservations%E2%80%9D
 
702551 February 5, 2016
Or it could be this episode. It appears the Commonwealth Club has interviewed Bourdain at least twice:

http://www.commonwealthclub.org/events/archive/podcast/anthony-bourdain-tv-host-chef-author-kitchen-confidential-6162006

Enjoy!
 
Third F. February 2, 2016
Speaking only in regard to the pancake photograph, I actually prefer the roughly torn painter's tape. The backlit blue offers a visually interesting texture. The roughly torn edges mimic the uneven edges of the pancake. While I agree that in food storage and organization orderliness is desired, in food itself I love a rough and homemade appearance. Don't people, myself included, have better things to do than criticize a picture of pancakes?
 
JaniceB February 2, 2016
As a graphic designer, I have 3m white artists tape (1/2") in the house, so that's what I'm used to and what I use. No cutting but yes to tabs!
 
liz A. February 2, 2016
the ocd side of me is loving this article
 
Bar49 February 2, 2016
So what is the preferred pen/tool for writing on the recommended 2/4 " painter's tape?
 
Leslie S. February 2, 2016
Most of the chefs said Sharpie!
 
Bar49 February 2, 2016
Thanks, Leslie! Up til now I was using mailing labels and a ballpoint. Will have to try painters tape (beautifully cut of course) and a sharpie.
 
Rebecca Z. February 3, 2016
I would think the stank smell of sharpies would interfere with the food production; in the kitchen, the nose it the most important sensory organ.
 
Leslie S. February 3, 2016
Sure thing! And that's a really interesting point, Rebecca! None of the chefs mentioned it though. I think the reason they prefer sharpie is because it's thicker and writes clearly so they can spot the lettering on the tape asap!
 
Dave B. February 4, 2016
Massive hood vents, Demi reducing, stocks simmering... You'll never smell.

I've been doing this for a few decades and agree that tearing is ok, but make it neat.

3M blue painters tape.
Fold the edge when done.
1" and blue... Home Depot 10pack
Sharpie fine tip
 
Jeano April 26, 2021
Bar49, reading your comment on kitchen labelling, made me think you'll appreciate this kitchen tape www.kitchenstickin.com.
 
Jeano April 26, 2021
Leslie, regarding kitchen labelling, this kitchen tape comes with a sharpie. I can send it to you! www.kitchenstickin.com.
 
Jeano April 26, 2021
Dave B reading your comment on kitchen labelling, made me think you'll appreciate this kitchen tape www.kitchenstickin.com.
 
christine C. February 2, 2016
Any restaurant that would fire an employee for tearing tape, does not deserve loyal, quality employees. It really makes me sad that there is that level of pretension in some otherwise fine establishments. Most restaurants ask so much from employees and offer them so little that to boast about possibly taking away someone's job over something so trivial is disgusting. I could go on and on... As a business owner, if great achievement has to come with treating my employees like that then I'd rather sling hash and be respectful of those people who I depend on.
 
Lisa Z. February 2, 2016
I looked at it as akin to the infamous Van Halen demand that there be no brown m&m's backstage at their concerts. They admitted later they did this to ensure the attention to detail necessary when dealing with pyrotechnics and complicated stage design. If an employee can't be bothered to cut tape after being warned of the consequences, how do you know they are adhering to sanitary and other guidelines?
 
OnionThief February 2, 2016
asking a restaurant employee to conform to labeling conventions is no different that asking someone to do the same in an office. Would i fire office staff that couldn't label files correctly? absolutely. did i do the same in my kitchen? didn't have to. they knew better than to screw it up.
 
christine C. February 2, 2016
There is a difference between firing an employee because of mislabling, and firing an employee because you don't like how they write their b's or f's... It's such a shame that the job market is so bad that some people with a little authority can act so petty and treat members of their "team" like nothing. I can drive myself crazy talking about the difference between being exacting and being pretentious and arrogant. Leaders will know the difference, supervisors won't.
 
Alexandra H. February 2, 2016
I even make a tab on the water soluble labels we use, because they don't always dissolve.