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Aarsun W.
October 15, 2019
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Aaron
March 9, 2016
I should have been more clear.
I was actually commenting on newer production pieces. I've seen some machine-cut dovetails that are terrible in their assembly, with significant gaps in the joints and heavy use of wood filler. That's not quality joinery.
A well-executed hand-cut dovetail joint is extremely strong, and can be more attractive in appearance than a machine-cut dovetail.
I was actually commenting on newer production pieces. I've seen some machine-cut dovetails that are terrible in their assembly, with significant gaps in the joints and heavy use of wood filler. That's not quality joinery.
A well-executed hand-cut dovetail joint is extremely strong, and can be more attractive in appearance than a machine-cut dovetail.
Smaug
March 9, 2016
True enough- I've found that some factory made furniture and millwork that I've had occasion to disassemble has been surprisingly lax about the fit of the joints, sometimes to the point of compromising glue joints. There's no reason the machines can't cut perfect joints, but I suppose it makes it easy to assemble things without having to think about it.
Smaug
March 9, 2016
I could comment on this all day. but just one point: particle board is heavier than almost any kind of wood, and the exceptions are all tropical hardwoods that you're very unlikely to find solid furniture made from; certainly not unless you shop for it. The MDF (medium density fibreboard) favored for veneered furniture by modern makers is ridiculously heavy- first time I tried to move a 3/4" sheet of it I about died.
Aaron
March 9, 2016
A couple of quick reactions....
I have seen furniture built with plywood drawer boxes where the drawers were dovetailed. That's a sign of false quality, something that's meant to mislead the consumer -- you dovetail solid wood, but due to its nature it's not an appropriate joinery method for plywood. Also when looking at dovetailing, you need to consider any spacing or wood filler around the dovetail joint. The cleaner and tighter the joint, the better. If you see wood filler or can see light through the joint, you should think of it as a lower quality production piece, not quality furniture.
Stud grade pine will weigh about 450 kilograms per cubic meter, while plywood will weigh about 600 kg / cubic meter, and MDF can run 700 - 1000 kg / cubic meter. Red oak weighs about 730 kg / cubic meter. Hard maple weighs about 705 kg / cubic meter. Black cherry weighs about 560 kg / cubic meter. Poplar, commonly used in drawer boxes for case goods, weighs about 455 kg /cubic meter. Western red cedar weighs about 370 kg / cubic meter. Before you can make any assumptions about the quality of a piece based on its mass or assumed density, you have to have an idea of what it's made of -- and a piece made primarily or exclusively of MDF will often in fact be heavier than a quality, solid wood piece of similar design and style.
It will often be difficult to tell unless the furniture has exposed, unfinished ends or surfaces. While it's not universally true, furniture assembled with cam connectors has a high chance of incorporating fiberboard. Manufactured products such as MDF tend to support less weight, and long pieces will bow to a greater degree than solid wood if lifted from one end.
A product like MDF, if exposed to water, will suck up the water like a sponge. You've probably seen that happen in the bottom of a cheap bathroom vanity, at one time or another. Water is not good for any type of wood -- plywood can delaminate and warp, with its layers coming apart and expanding; solid wood can discolor and warp. But particleboard and MDF are much less likely to be cosmetically acceptable or reasonably repairable if water damaged.
Be very cautious about purchasing furniture constructed with cam connectors, as that type of furniture is designed to be assembled in place and can be difficult to move without causing damage -- particularly if it incorporates particleboard or fiberboard, which it probably does.
Sometimes "solid wood" isn't all it's cracked up to be. A poorly treated or finished piece of solid wood might not hold up well. Some woods are soft, and are thus more vulnerable to visible wear. Some Asian species may be sold under familiar-sounding wood names through domestic furniture vendors, but could potentially have a very different level of performance as compared to the domestically grown tree of a similar name.
I have seen furniture built with plywood drawer boxes where the drawers were dovetailed. That's a sign of false quality, something that's meant to mislead the consumer -- you dovetail solid wood, but due to its nature it's not an appropriate joinery method for plywood. Also when looking at dovetailing, you need to consider any spacing or wood filler around the dovetail joint. The cleaner and tighter the joint, the better. If you see wood filler or can see light through the joint, you should think of it as a lower quality production piece, not quality furniture.
Stud grade pine will weigh about 450 kilograms per cubic meter, while plywood will weigh about 600 kg / cubic meter, and MDF can run 700 - 1000 kg / cubic meter. Red oak weighs about 730 kg / cubic meter. Hard maple weighs about 705 kg / cubic meter. Black cherry weighs about 560 kg / cubic meter. Poplar, commonly used in drawer boxes for case goods, weighs about 455 kg /cubic meter. Western red cedar weighs about 370 kg / cubic meter. Before you can make any assumptions about the quality of a piece based on its mass or assumed density, you have to have an idea of what it's made of -- and a piece made primarily or exclusively of MDF will often in fact be heavier than a quality, solid wood piece of similar design and style.
It will often be difficult to tell unless the furniture has exposed, unfinished ends or surfaces. While it's not universally true, furniture assembled with cam connectors has a high chance of incorporating fiberboard. Manufactured products such as MDF tend to support less weight, and long pieces will bow to a greater degree than solid wood if lifted from one end.
A product like MDF, if exposed to water, will suck up the water like a sponge. You've probably seen that happen in the bottom of a cheap bathroom vanity, at one time or another. Water is not good for any type of wood -- plywood can delaminate and warp, with its layers coming apart and expanding; solid wood can discolor and warp. But particleboard and MDF are much less likely to be cosmetically acceptable or reasonably repairable if water damaged.
Be very cautious about purchasing furniture constructed with cam connectors, as that type of furniture is designed to be assembled in place and can be difficult to move without causing damage -- particularly if it incorporates particleboard or fiberboard, which it probably does.
Sometimes "solid wood" isn't all it's cracked up to be. A poorly treated or finished piece of solid wood might not hold up well. Some woods are soft, and are thus more vulnerable to visible wear. Some Asian species may be sold under familiar-sounding wood names through domestic furniture vendors, but could potentially have a very different level of performance as compared to the domestically grown tree of a similar name.
Smaug
March 9, 2016
Unless.... Hand cut dovetails on older pieces won't look as perfect as the airtight, machine made dovetails you see nowadays- this is not a sign of lack of quality.
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