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Jim
June 7, 2019
I have several Griswold frying pans that I love. I’ve gotten larger cast iron stuff by Lodge which has performed just fine, but is heavy. I used a 12” Lodge pan for a while, but it was too hard on my wrist one-handed. I bought a 12” Mauviel M’steel and gave the Lodge to my daughter.
Overall, I’m happy with the exchange, but I’d like the Lodge back for roasting chicken and making various casseroles.
Jim
Overall, I’m happy with the exchange, but I’d like the Lodge back for roasting chicken and making various casseroles.
Jim
Clay H.
January 28, 2018
I have several carbon steel pans and a few cast iron pans and I don't do anything special as far as seasoning is concerned. I just cook with it. Sure, I followed the 'seasoning' instructions, but I didn't find that it helped in the slightest and came off. The whole polymer thing is BS as far as I am concerned. What does work is to just cook with the thing using oils. I use butter, olive, grapeseed and canola oils to cook with. What I notice is that over time, a black finish forms on the cooking surface. What is forming is 'black magnetite', which is what happens when ferrous metals oxidize under heat. I also wash my pans with soap and water. No, I don't scrub the heck out of them, just a gentle wash and then dry them with a towel and use a little heat from my cooktop to ensure that all moisture is gone. That's it. No magic, no frantic Internet searches looking for 'reseasoning', just cook with the thing and keep if from rusting.
Noreen F.
July 12, 2016
These are the latest items on my wishlist. As far as the handles getting hot, I've got some handle covers from Lodge (http://bit.ly/29NEfzc) that work great for my cast-iron skillet. The handles on the M'Steel pans look longer, though, so I might have to hunt around for longer ones.
jane F.
July 12, 2016
These pans are amazing, I have never used a pan before that cooks so beautifully! They may be expensive but worth every cent!
Polly L.
July 11, 2016
I purchased one of these pans and had only used it a few times. We renovated our kitchen last winter and when I brought it back from storage there was a bit of rust on it. Any recommendations for removing the rust and reseasoning it?
Stephen L.
July 11, 2016
With loads of respect, I have to say that FOOD52 is rather glib about seasoning these pans, which is where so many cooks stumble with carbon. Sheryl Canter is the expert here. See her blog posts on the topic here:
http://sherylcanter.com/wordpress/2010/01/a-science-based-technique-for-seasoning-cast-iron/
http://sherylcanter.com/wordpress/2010/02/black-rust-and-cast-iron-seasoning/
Towards the bottom of the comments section of this second post of Sheryl's, a helpful commenter named "Brab" summarizes her methodology.
http://sherylcanter.com/wordpress/2010/01/a-science-based-technique-for-seasoning-cast-iron/
http://sherylcanter.com/wordpress/2010/02/black-rust-and-cast-iron-seasoning/
Towards the bottom of the comments section of this second post of Sheryl's, a helpful commenter named "Brab" summarizes her methodology.
SandyToes
October 31, 2016
With all due respect to Ms. Canter, her method doesn't appear to be fool-proof. There are several discussions on Chowhound detailing flaking after using the Canter method, from cooks well familiar with carbon steel. I'm in the traditional (I'd call it slapdash) camp and my pans, while not having a lovely even patina, are still nicely nonstick.
Andrew W.
July 9, 2016
In the seasoning instructions you say to "heat it on a burner for 5 minutes" but don't list a temperature. Given that I have a terrible glass top range, what temp. should I shoot for when seasoning?
Mailin
July 9, 2016
Got a few questions I didn't find the answers to:
1. Is this the healthiest form of non-stick?
2. Could it get smelly after cooking fish?
3. If it gets scratched, will it loose its non-stick property?
4. Will the handle stay cool or hot?
1. Is this the healthiest form of non-stick?
2. Could it get smelly after cooking fish?
3. If it gets scratched, will it loose its non-stick property?
4. Will the handle stay cool or hot?
Mark S.
July 9, 2016
From what I understand it's better, health wise than non-stick. No as to the smell. You shouldn't be able to scratch it because you're not scrubbing it. And the handles stay cool on the cook top. Not the oven.
Kathryn G.
July 9, 2016
These are nonstick pans. They are really nice steel pans that won't stick if you season them properly and heat them before you place your food in them. The handle does get hot, so you'll need some sort of pot holder. Anything can scratch.
Amanda S.
July 10, 2016
Kathryn's right! If you season them and care for them properly (how to do so is indicated above), they *become* naturally nonstick; the only buildup will come from the oil you use. It shouldn't scratch off. And yes, the handles will get hot, so be careful!
Colin
February 4, 2019
You might scratch some of the coating you've created if you're being rough with metal utensils, but this won't be harmful. Overtime, the coating will simply come back, but because the layers will be stratified, it won't be completely even and you may be able to see those scratches despite them having a coating until you can get an even layer back.
Alexis D.
July 9, 2016
What's the main difference between Mauviel and DeBuyer because DeBuyer also has carbon steel pan under the name Mineral B.
702551
July 9, 2016
There is no practical difference between the Mauviel and deBuyer pans; the material and design are the same. There are probably three or four other brands sold in the USA that also produce comparable carbon steel cookware.
The deBuyer Mineral B line is pretty much the same as the Mauviel M'steel line, right down to the beeswax coating that must be removed before first use.
I bought my set of deBuyer pans from another online retailer (it was a good deal at the time), plus I fancied the pans that would most commonly be found in a French high-end restaurant kitchen.
That said, if I bought today, I'd simply buy the ones with the best pricing.
The deBuyer Mineral B line is pretty much the same as the Mauviel M'steel line, right down to the beeswax coating that must be removed before first use.
I bought my set of deBuyer pans from another online retailer (it was a good deal at the time), plus I fancied the pans that would most commonly be found in a French high-end restaurant kitchen.
That said, if I bought today, I'd simply buy the ones with the best pricing.
Mark S.
July 9, 2016
Agreed! I got mine at the Chef's Catalog. Sad to say, that catalog bit the dust.
Bubba M.
July 9, 2016
The new seasoning for steel pans is flaxseed oil....easy to find in a spray bottle in health food stores. I have used steel pans purchased in France after cooking school for 40 years. I consider them my most trusted item in the kitchen. As my kids have moved on and moved out, I always present them with a few to start them out. They are a delight to use. A must is an omelette pan.
gardeningal
July 9, 2016
Sounds like a nice pan. Lighter than the cast iron, I would presume. That would make my day. I just finished seasoning a cast iron pan I found at an estate sale. Although I love it - stove top to oven, it's a bit tough to maneuver( arthritis).
Amanda S.
July 10, 2016
Yes, they are definitely lighter-weight than everyday cast iron—but not necessarily lightweight compared to all pans. All weights are listed on their buying page; for example, the 11" fry pan weighs 3.2 pounds.
702551
July 10, 2016
I disagree with Amanda.
The cooking surface of my smallest deBuyer carbon steel skillet is about the same diameter as my smallest Lodge cast iron skillet, basically 5" or about 13 cm.
However, the carbon steel skillet is actually 115 grams heavier than the cast iron one, about 13%.
Plus, there is a difference in the weight distribution. For the cast iron skillet, the center of gravity is very close to the center of the pan since the handle is so short. For the carbon steel skillet, the center of gravity is considerably closer to the handle because of the handle's size and weight.
The carbon steel pan "feels" lighter than the cast iron skillet because it is better balanced and handles better, but it is actually the heavier pan.
The cooking surface of my smallest deBuyer carbon steel skillet is about the same diameter as my smallest Lodge cast iron skillet, basically 5" or about 13 cm.
However, the carbon steel skillet is actually 115 grams heavier than the cast iron one, about 13%.
Plus, there is a difference in the weight distribution. For the cast iron skillet, the center of gravity is very close to the center of the pan since the handle is so short. For the carbon steel skillet, the center of gravity is considerably closer to the handle because of the handle's size and weight.
The carbon steel pan "feels" lighter than the cast iron skillet because it is better balanced and handles better, but it is actually the heavier pan.
SandyToes
October 31, 2016
This is why I favor carbon steel, aside from it's smoothness compared to new cast iron. However, CV is right in that to get the same floor space you'll need a larger steel pan to compensate for the widely flared walls. Cast iron skillets have relatively straight sidewalls.
For an egg or omelette pan that will only be used over low heat, you can save even more weight by going with a thinner pan. My deBuyer Force Blue crepe pan is a little thinner than the M'Steel or Mineral B and would warp over high heat, but it handles medium heat and lower like a dream. I use it for fried eggs, omelettes, pancakes, grilled sandwiches and (duh) crepes.
I have a larger, heavier crepe pan that will take high heat that is great for foods where containment isn't an issue. It's advantage is that with only one-inch sidewalls it's possible to get more floor space without adding a lot of weight.
For an egg or omelette pan that will only be used over low heat, you can save even more weight by going with a thinner pan. My deBuyer Force Blue crepe pan is a little thinner than the M'Steel or Mineral B and would warp over high heat, but it handles medium heat and lower like a dream. I use it for fried eggs, omelettes, pancakes, grilled sandwiches and (duh) crepes.
I have a larger, heavier crepe pan that will take high heat that is great for foods where containment isn't an issue. It's advantage is that with only one-inch sidewalls it's possible to get more floor space without adding a lot of weight.
Houlton M.
July 9, 2016
So many of us are using induction, it would be useful for pan reviews to address that cooking method.
Mark S.
July 9, 2016
I also was interested in using induction ranges, so before I made my purchase I researched these pans for that reason. These are a perfect solution to induction cooking.
Amanda S.
July 10, 2016
That's correct! They do work on induction surfaces. I've changed the above to reflect that.
Mark S.
July 9, 2016
I purchased these pans from de Buyer. They are the best pans bar none. It took me a while to get used to them, but once seasoned, they preform like a dream. I thought Mauviel was only copper pans. I happy to know they produce carbon pans as well.
Risottogirl
July 9, 2016
At culinary school in France these pans were use for fish only and we're never given to to the "plongeurs" to wash. We always cleaned them with coarse salt scrub if necessary, never soap. I use and treat mine the same way.
Candi D.
July 8, 2016
I had a friend recommend that when in Paris I buy a "blue pan" , would this be the same? She raved about them.
Aisha
July 9, 2016
I'm guessing she means "tôle bleue", which is not far off from this. It is a type of carbon steel that's made into thinner sheets so it's ideal for applications where you need a very reactive pan (like for wok cooking). Thinner also means lighter. Besides that, you can care for it and use it pretty much the same way as is outlined here. De Buyer have a large range of blue steel (tôle bleue) cookware. I have their wok and it's a joy to cook with.
PbrDoug
July 9, 2016
A blue pan could be a forged iron pan which is lighter in weight than a cast iron pan. I recommend cooking with forged iron or carbon steel if your looking for a lighter weight. Remember they still heavier than thin PTFE non stick pans. Forged iron and carbon steel pans can handle high heat in the oven. These pans need to be season and treated like a cast iron pan. They will last you a life time and should be past down like a heirloom.
Suzanne
July 8, 2016
I do not have the Mauviel carbon steel, but I have a pan from Mauviel's M'stone line - it is ceramic non-stick and it is my favorite pan ever! I LOVE that company and will be looking into one of these M'steel pans.
ChefJune
July 8, 2016
I've had two of these pans for decades. They are my favorites for cooking meat, for sure. I don't recommend using them for any gooey cooking, though. Tough to clean without ruining the season.
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