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5 Genius Pie Tips for Our Beloved Super-Flaky, No-Stress Dough Recipe
All the do's and don'ts to win at Stella Parks' Genius technique.
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delcecchi
August 18, 2019
I tried this dough a while back, and when blind baked it blew up like a balloon (or puff pastry). How do I get it to not do that? Docking it thoroughly seems like it would allow the crust to leak with a runny filling and end up gluing the crust to the bottom of the pan.
So, what is the blind baking solution?
So, what is the blind baking solution?
lacrema
April 23, 2019
This crust is a lot more like a puff pastry crust than a traditional pie crust. It's super easy and tastes great, but not what I look for in a pie crust, which I like shorter. This would be fantastic for puff-style freeform tarts and galettes, though!
Pat E.
November 29, 2018
Just a thought on shaping...when you get to the “cut in half” part make your cut lengthwise then, from the short side, roll the dough up in a spiral. Now you’re starting with a round shape and it’s easier to roll into a circle. I love this recipe although I do wish it held the crimp a little better and would appreciate any tips out there on resolving that issue.
Suz
November 26, 2020
Thank you! One of my problems with this recipe is my inability to turn a rectangle into a circle, leading to four places where corners give way too much over hand and 4 places where there's not enough dough to fold under. I will definitely try this next time.
Amy R.
November 29, 2018
How can this recipe be adapted to accommodate savory pies? I regularly make creamy seafood pot pie or veggie pot pie and would like to know the amount of salt to use to replace the sugar. Thanks!
River W.
March 30, 2019
As I understood it, the sugar is integral to the browning of the crust and should not be left out. It's a small amount, and in my opinion balances the overall flavor of the crust. I've used the dough to make savory pies, and it was perfect.
St. P.
November 25, 2018
I'd love to know where to buy the lovely tall-ish glass measuring cups you used in this video (for the VERY cold water).
Thanks.
Thanks.
Kristen M.
November 25, 2018
I think these are some of our Art Director's vintage finds—she loves scoping out flea markets for the best deals, but antique shops often have kitchen goods like this, too. You can also try searching online merchants like Etsy and eBay. Good luck!
FourCats
November 24, 2018
Used to be wealthy people would install a section of marble countertop in their kitchen for rolling out pastry dough to keep the butter cool. Now that many kitchens have stone countertops why do cooking shows always show pastry being rolled out on a wood cutting board? And why do you not recommend it here? Like so many other myths, has it turned out for rolling dough wood is better than stone?
Kristen M.
November 24, 2018
Honestly, I roll on whatever I've got! Marble, stone, and wood all work well, though as you noted marble and other types of stone can be helpful for keeping dough cool, both naturally and if you use Stella's trick for icing down counters mentioned above.
Doris
November 25, 2018
I have made many pies over the years and the most important thing that I learned in Bravetart is to keep the kitchen at 70 degrees.
Mike B.
November 21, 2018
Another article that complicates this with BS. Never use bleached flour. Why? Use ACV in combination with water. It will restrict gluten formation. Just another so called expert trying to justify their minimal knowledge
Terri S.
November 21, 2018
What is that pie that you are eating? The criss-cross crust one? I see the recipe for the pie dough, but am I overlooking the name/recipe of the pie? Thanks! I'm making a wild plum tart for Thanksgiving and using this pie dough, but the one you guys baked looks pretty amazing!
Kristen M.
November 21, 2018
Hi Terri, thanks for asking—it's Four & Twenty Blackbirds' delicious Cranberry Sage Pie, which is in Genius Desserts, and there's also a version on Food52 over here: https://food52.com/blog/8991-four-twenty-blackbirds-cranberry-sage-pie
M
November 21, 2018
It's good practice to scale Stella's recipe to 1.5 as you're getting used to it, or if you have a glass pie plate with a larger, crimped edge. It's not just a matter of how thinly you roll it, but how good you are at rolling dough into a circle. The extra bit of dough gives wiggle room for accidentally rolling it a little oblong, edge tears, or to cover a big crimped edge (as some glass pie plates have). The extra can be used to make a mini pie to eat before the big day, or for extra flourishes on top, like leaf cutouts, braided edges, etc.
Sadie G.
November 21, 2018
I cut and pasted the link you shared above about the "bleached flour" and it does work, thanks! I read through it as I had no idea what the difference between them was so I can now happily, and without guilt, use bleached flour again. Thanks! And I will be making my pie dough tonight as I, like many I am sure, are a day beyond in my prep work for tomorrow!
Kristen M.
November 21, 2018
Stella is such an amazing resource for the hows and whys of baking. I highly recommend her book BraveTart if you want more of that!
michael H.
November 21, 2018
I have been making pies and pastry for forty years, mostly learned from my mother and mother-in-law. But this recipe looks great. Will try in a few minutes. I need pie. Maybe blueberry from wild blueberries from the summer.
leithplus4
November 21, 2018
How far in advance can I bake the apple pie? Today? And then reheat gently tomorrow?
Denise
November 21, 2018
I'm super confused about tip #5. I am making the apple pie from Genius Desserts right now. It is in the oven as I type this -- at 425 on a baking stone on a rack at the bottom of the oven, just as the cookbook says, which is exactly the opposite of tip #5 above. What should I do? I don't know which set of directions to follow!
Kristen M.
November 21, 2018
Hi Denise, great point and very sorry to confuse! Everything in Genius Desserts has been tested six ways from Sunday so you’re fine to follow the instructions in the book exactly. This list was a combination of mine and Stella’s advice and meant to help people who are taking the dough off-recipe avoid issues from a combination of unknown factors (but you’re not!). Happy Thanksgiving!
Denise
November 21, 2018
Thank you so much! In the end, I left it where it was and it came out looking great! Can't wait to dig in tomorrow. Happy Thanksgiving!
ellen
November 21, 2018
I so enjoyed the two of you and your lovely prattle. Not only do I have a new recipe but I have a joyful feeling about trying this.
I feel funny about using bleached flour. Does stella Parks discuss this further in her book? Thanks and have a wonderful Thanksgiving
I feel funny about using bleached flour. Does stella Parks discuss this further in her book? Thanks and have a wonderful Thanksgiving
Kristen M.
November 21, 2018
Thanks Ellen—Danielle is such a joy to be around, so unsurprisingly baking pie together is no different! Stella breaks down the term "bleached" really thoroughly in the link I posted in the (1) footnote above, and also addresses this in her book here (not sure if this Google Books link will work, but I highly recommend checking out the real thing when you get a chance!): https://books.google.com/books?id=rWtIDQAAQBAJ&pg=PT25&lpg=PT25&dq=bleached+all+purpose+flour+stella+parks&source=bl&ots=k-CYCVKDHn&sig=9jOSH6fvli7Swo4SrLjEzIje1mE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwix7Y_NveHeAhWLc98KHdXwBHsQ6AEwFXoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=bleached%20all%20purpose%20flour%20stella%20parks&f=false
Cheryl S.
November 21, 2018
You guys are so cute together. This recipe looks fabulous...definitely trying on my next pie!!
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