I personally had a great experience with a Cooking Channel taping session, their attention to detail regarding the details about a recipe of mine was astounding.. Learnt a LOT.
But then the show was for cooking channel & not the Food Network.. The difference there is 'cooking' vs. 'Food'
Can someone tell me WHY that damn Guy Fieri is plastered all over TV? The guy is a moron, have seen him in his own home town, drunker than a skunk and rude as can be, at at golf tournament. Enough already!
He's plastered there because apparently he totally stood out waay above the rest of the contestants in that season.. There was some sort of 'STAR' quality that he possessed. (Heard this directly from a source at FN during a tour of the studios)
I'm a baker and find the cake show, Ace of Cakes extremely annoying for many reasons. How do they get away w/ just wearing street clothes, no aprons and no head covering while preparing and decorating cakes??? I wish some of the cake shows on TV would post their prices because customers come into our bakery all the time w/ a picture from the internet or want a cake from a show they saw on TV and are shocked at the price. Just last week, a customer wanted an alligator-shaped cake with fondant, and only wanted to pay $45. And, she thought we could drop everything and prepare it for her that day-and did I mention it was Saturday!!!
Spiffypaws, I once got to watch the Charm City Cakes team do a demonstration. And it took all day. So you are right, it's not like you can knock this stuff out in 45 minutes. Guess who the most popular person on the team was. The taciturn Geoff. The guy has fans.
Professionally, as a Chef, I've come to view The Food Network as both a bonus and a bane to my existence. The bonus comes in the realization that consumers are more educated and have higher expectations than they did even 10 years ago. They know more about quality, nutrition, safe practices, and environmental issues than ever before. They're also more likely to have at least seen other cultural influences on western cuisine and are more likely to be more adventurous in trying new things. These factors certainly seperate the professional cook/chef from the fly-by-nights that believe it's better to increase profit by lowering quality and standards.
Having said this, The Food Network is the bane of my existence for the reason you have pointed out; misinformation. It has turned certain factions of the consuming public into 'foodies', or worse, 'food snobs'. It's not even necesarily the fault of TFN or the celebrity chef involved; quite often it's the misinterpretation of the information by the viewer.
Sorry, I didn't mean to stir things up if the issue has been discussed previously. I've only seen a few minutes of his show but I took the comments I heard as critical of her in that regard.
As for the business issues, there are a great number of things in this world that don't make any sense to me…
It actually seems to me as though her family is very supportive of her. Her sons are spokespersons too. But I was less focused on her personal decisions and rehashing the diabetes controversy as I was puzzled, from a business standpoint, as to how his show makes sense.
Paula's family is furious with her for concealing her diabetes for three years while promoting just the type of diet diabetes sufferers should be avoiding while doing nothing to control her weight, the number one factor in combating her condition. Someone needs to tell her running off at the mouth does not count as exercise. (Then there's that little issue about being a paid spokesperson for a pharmaceutical company that markets diabetes drugs.)
One other thought: Has anyone bee surprised by Bobby Deen's show? He flat out knocks Paula's recipes and admits that they are terrible in the health department. How is this at all conducive to their production and marketing of her show?
Not at all surprised. Marketing brilliance as far as I can tell $$$ Paula plays to gluttony and negotiates with big pharma. Bobby picks up the other end and plays to "health".
Of course they're doing their best to make money, they're running a business forheavensake. You can hardly fault them for giving the public what they want to watch. But at the same time, you can't accuse them of not providing a variety of shows or trying new and different approaches, some of which have been great successes, some are bound to be great disappointments. "Bitchin' Kitchen"???
Anne Burrell is supremely talented and brings a boatload of experience to her show Secrets. I love Alton's depth of knowledge and understanding and his out-of-the-box way of thinking. Michael Symon's Cook Like an Iron Chef is another gem.
They all have their quirks. And I've caught both Anne and Alton making technical errors. Nobody's perfect.
Michael Symon is one of my all time heroes. During an Iron Chef episode he almost threatened Andrew Knowlton (Bon Appeitit) who is an all time dork, with physical violence. He was going to lay some hurt on him big time. Michael Ruhlman just scratched his chin and openly mocked Knowlton. But both Symon and Ruhlman are Cleveland guys.
Well, if anyone has watched the next food network star, the entertainment rather than food focus could not be clearer. I was shocked that most of the contestants could even make it on to the show, and the winners were always disappointing. The one contestant with promise, Whitney Chen, was eliminated for her personality, which the judges saw as lackluster (she now blogs for gilt taste). But the point is that they were looking for Guy Fieris. Sad. I grew up watching the Two Hot Tamales, Gale Gand, and Sara Molton. I do still appreciate Ina Garten. And even if Alton Brown had an informative show, I found his personality unbearable. Mario always comes off a bit pompous, which can offend some. I think he has this problem on The Chew too.
I think Food Network is shifting from actual cooking related shows to those chic, glamorous food related reality shows.. & cooking channel is taking over the actual 'food that we can eat' segment.
Well, if anyone has watched the next food network star, the entertainment rather than food focus could not be clearer. I was shocked that most of the contestants could even make it on to the show, and the winners were always disappointing. The one contestant with promise, Whitney Chen, was eliminated for her personality, which the judges saw as lackluster (she now blogs for gilt taste). But the point is that they were looking for Guy Fieris. Sad. I grew up watching the Two Hot Tamales, Gale Gand, and Sara Molton. I do still appreciate Ina Garten. And even if Alton Brown had an informative show, I found his personality unbearable. Mario always comes off a bit pompous, which can offend some. I think he has this problem on The Chew too.
there is also a commercial on right now where giada says she doesn't care if they can cook as long as the personality is there, because she can always teach them to cook
It's also unfortunate that they felt the need to market kitchen tools/cookware/dishes, etc. It seems as though they're not even trying to hide the fact that the network exists to make as much money as possible and entertain, rather than educate.
I have the Food Network Kitchens Cookbook, copyright 2003. You can see that the spirit is alive, the recipes exciting -- it's a whole different 'network,' doesn't even have celebrity chefs. The tag line is 'fresh ideas. bold flavors. tips & techniques' -- guess that was the good old days. Too bad.
While I agree with most the comments above, in defense of the Food Network they have put on some fabulous and informative shows in the past. Two that come to mind are Molto Mario and Alton Brown's Good Eats. (though I suspect both are mentally blocked out because the hosts can be a bit hard to take.)
Agreed! I've enjoyed more hours of Food Network and now Cooking Channel TV than I care to admit here! I certainly prefer it to the news shows at night. And, I've learned much from Alton Brown, Ina Garten, Bobby Flay (all the Iron Chefs), Jamie Oliver, Nigella Lawson and even Rachel Ray. I watch more Cooking Channel TV now, though, since all I can ever really find after work on the FN is Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives (not my fave).
well everyone does it, especially the obvious rr or giada, but on this particular instance it was aida which was even more annoying than usual because the basis of her show is answering questions
Giada, grand daughter of Dino DiLaurentis is at least a professionally trained cook. She grew up in Rome and understands the cooking. She looks like a runway model but I don't hold that against her. RR was scooped up by Food Network after doing demos on local television. This was around the time that Food Network started to furlough the real chef shows. Ming, the Tamales, and I could go on. They were really smart in picking up the original Japanese version of Iron Chef which was greatly entertaining. Iron Chef America is now one of their few quality products even if some of the judges are morons.
Would you really want to live in a world where there was such a thing as Food TV Police? I would, but only if I were commissioner and I got to wield a twelve-inch skillet to whack nitwits over the head every time I disagreed with them. EVOO smoking in a frying pan? Bong!
For my own curiosity, can you elaborate on who you believe is guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors (besides RR) and what they've said?
And indeed I'd like to back up ChefOno on the bongs. After ChefOno bonged a nitwit I'd add an extra bong. And then I'd bong Chef who would give me the Moe two finger eye poke. "Ow, Ow, Ow!" Retaliate with the double nostril pull with the head butt. Slaps ensue. See, cooking is fun.
Oh, a wise guy, eh? Let's bring out Emeril then… Ono: "I'll take some burnt toast 'n' a rotten egg." Emeril: "Bam!" Ono: Bong! Pierino: Bong! Emeril (weakly): "Bam?" Ono: Bong! Pierino: Bong! Emeril: "Ooooh… I'm trying to think but nothing's happening!" Ono and Pierino shake hands and walk off stage looking for The Food Network's head of programming…
I'm disappointed that someone with her education and status would say such things but I can't say I'm terribly surprised -- *a lot* of people believe those things to be true. Message for Aida Mollenkamp… Bong!
Sorry, no. There is absolutely nothing you can do to "lock in" juiciness. Searing and crusts are all about flavor. To quote Burrell, since we're discussing Food Network, "Brown food tastes good!"
Brandon there is no such thing as no such thing as a Food TV police. About five or six years ago the producers of Food Network made the marketing decision to really dumb it down and make it all entertainment which certainly has helped its ratings. RR is the quintessenial example of inaccurate info because she just spins stuff off of the top of her head, much of which is not just wrong but screaming, hilarious wrong.
53 Comments
But then the show was for cooking channel & not the Food Network.. The difference there is 'cooking' vs. 'Food'
Having said this, The Food Network is the bane of my existence for the reason you have pointed out; misinformation. It has turned certain factions of the consuming public into 'foodies', or worse, 'food snobs'. It's not even necesarily the fault of TFN or the celebrity chef involved; quite often it's the misinterpretation of the information by the viewer.
Sorry, I didn't mean to stir things up if the issue has been discussed previously. I've only seen a few minutes of his show but I took the comments I heard as critical of her in that regard.
As for the business issues, there are a great number of things in this world that don't make any sense to me…
Paula's family is furious with her for concealing her diabetes for three years while promoting just the type of diet diabetes sufferers should be avoiding while doing nothing to control her weight, the number one factor in combating her condition. Someone needs to tell her running off at the mouth does not count as exercise. (Then there's that little issue about being a paid spokesperson for a pharmaceutical company that markets diabetes drugs.)
Of course they're doing their best to make money, they're running a business forheavensake. You can hardly fault them for giving the public what they want to watch. But at the same time, you can't accuse them of not providing a variety of shows or trying new and different approaches, some of which have been great successes, some are bound to be great disappointments. "Bitchin' Kitchen"???
Anne Burrell is supremely talented and brings a boatload of experience to her show Secrets. I love Alton's depth of knowledge and understanding and his out-of-the-box way of thinking. Michael Symon's Cook Like an Iron Chef is another gem.
They all have their quirks. And I've caught both Anne and Alton making technical errors. Nobody's perfect.
Alton Brown: "It gets real spicy between Andrew and Michael. I can tell you there are almost fisticuffs."
Voted the Best Reply!
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/paula-deen/english-peas-recipe/index.html
Warning: You'll split your sides rolling with laughter reading through the comments!
Thank you, thank you, thank you for that link! Priceless!
Now I'm even more curious as to what she said.
Would you really want to live in a world where there was such a thing as Food TV Police? I would, but only if I were commissioner and I got to wield a twelve-inch skillet to whack nitwits over the head every time I disagreed with them. EVOO smoking in a frying pan? Bong!
For my own curiosity, can you elaborate on who you believe is guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors (besides RR) and what they've said?
Oh, a wise guy, eh? Let's bring out Emeril then… Ono: "I'll take some burnt toast 'n' a rotten egg." Emeril: "Bam!" Ono: Bong! Pierino: Bong! Emeril (weakly): "Bam?" Ono: Bong! Pierino: Bong! Emeril: "Ooooh… I'm trying to think but nothing's happening!" Ono and Pierino shake hands and walk off stage looking for The Food Network's head of programming…
I'm disappointed that someone with her education and status would say such things but I can't say I'm terribly surprised -- *a lot* of people believe those things to be true. Message for Aida Mollenkamp… Bong!
Sorry, no. There is absolutely nothing you can do to "lock in" juiciness. Searing and crusts are all about flavor. To quote Burrell, since we're discussing Food Network, "Brown food tastes good!"