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Seeds vs. Plants: A Buying Guide for Vegetable Gardeners
Use this checklist to find out what works best for you.
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HalfPint
May 27, 2021
I have a hard time with growing certain things from seed (not quite sure why & believe me, I have tried and tried):
-cilantro/coriander
-basil (any variety)
-tomatoes
-peppers
Maybe they sense my resentment ;)
So it is better for me to get small plants/seedlings for the list above.
Seeds that are alway successful for me:
-parsley
-radishes
-lettuce
-zucchini
-cilantro/coriander
-basil (any variety)
-tomatoes
-peppers
Maybe they sense my resentment ;)
So it is better for me to get small plants/seedlings for the list above.
Seeds that are alway successful for me:
-parsley
-radishes
-lettuce
-zucchini
Smaug
May 28, 2021
That is a bit odd- the plants you mention are usually no problem. Is your difficulty with germinating the seeds or in getting the seedlings to develop? Buying basil and cilantro plants can be problematic; they're expensive and bolt quite easily- cilantro hates being transplanted- they really need successive sowings throughout the season. Peppers and tomatoes are less of a problem to buy; professional growers will have the plants ready earlier than you can get them at home, good nurseries will carry enough variety to satisfy most, they transplant easily, and the economics don't particularly favor seeds for small numbers of plants.
Nadia H.
May 28, 2021
@HalfPint: If your seeds are not germinating, other than the usual culprits - seeds no longer viable or stored improperly, lack of moisture, temperatures issues, using soil rather than a soilless medium for seed starting - it could also be that they are seeded too deeply, the rule of thumb is no deeper than two times the width, i.e. 1/8 deep for seeds measuring 1/16 in width. Some seeds even need light to germinate. And sometimes these failures are hard to figure out, I have trouble growing spinach and always get very poor germination although I think I do all the right things.
Smaug
May 28, 2021
This is so- also some Seeds need lack of light. If you get deeper into growing from seed you'll run into some odd stuff; a lot of seeds are set to germinate only after a fire, or after one or more freeze/thaw cycles. I've burned seeds under piles of pine needles, boiled them, soaked them in acid, filed holes in seed coats, all kinds of stuff. But food crops in general, certainly the ones you name, have no particular needs. I do find that soaking squash seeds in warm water helps them out a bit. Soil is a bit of a question- seeds will naturally germinate in the soil they will grow in (although some, such as berry seeds, more often than not are germinated in nature with a manure starter), but it's often not ideal as far as moisture holding, texture and soil borne pathogens and pests can be a huge problem under artificial germination conditions- better off investing a bit in a sterile medium; coconut coir is very good; vermiculite and even sand can be good. Commercial potting mixes are not ideal, but they're generally sterile and will get the job done, and often makers will offer a seed starting mix as well.
Smaug
April 18, 2022
Update- I've had some very strange results this year from a coconut coir seedling starter- the seeds germinate fine, but the roots simply don't want to grow in it. Had to restart my tomatoes especially- I used homemade compost, which is a tad risky but has worked fine.
Smaug
May 27, 2021
Seeds used to be the go to for us cheapskates, but things have changed a lot; the 69 cent packets with hundreds of seeds are mostly replaced by several-dollar packets of very few seeds (thanks to fancy new packaging equipment) so the economics are sort of dicey for growing a few plants. Durability varies a lot- tomato seeds are actually remarkably tough (they often survive composting) and with moderate care will last for several years; others- particularly large seeds like squashes- are very undependable after one year. Most of the annual/biennial herbs need to be started from seed; they can be pricked out and moved at a very young stage, but generally tend to bolt very easily. Fortunately, the seed packets are generous, and most of the plants will produce plenty of seed. I've found parsley to naturalize particularly well and make a nice addition to general garden greenery; it can be quite attractive in flower as well. For my fellow cheapskates, I've found that most peppers will come true from seed, so you can collect from your plants. They can also be collected from ripe (which usually means red) storebought peppers or, less reliably, the Mexican types from dried peppers. Pepper seeds keep fairly well- not as well as tomatoes.
I consider a proper (and pretty simple) setup for seed starting to be essential. You need an enclosure- usually a plastic tray with a clear plastic cover with some ventilation, a heating mat for bottom heat, and lights. I mostly use Hydro Farm equipment, which is effective and inexpensive, but others, such as Park Seeds, have sturdier and possibly more durable (and more expensive) setups. The lighting situation has improved dramatically with high output LED's, but setups with stands to hold the lights and so forth are pretty costly; you could build your own, or just pay it- with the LED lights a setup will be very durable. A lot of the lamps made for plants only produce the light frequencies that plants actually use (no green, especially)- this is a bit more efficient; it produces a sort of purplish light that you may or may not like, and plants tend to look black under those lights. No problem with full spectrum lights, though- the plants won't use all the frequencies, but they're burning very little electricity so a brighter light won't be a big expense.
I consider a proper (and pretty simple) setup for seed starting to be essential. You need an enclosure- usually a plastic tray with a clear plastic cover with some ventilation, a heating mat for bottom heat, and lights. I mostly use Hydro Farm equipment, which is effective and inexpensive, but others, such as Park Seeds, have sturdier and possibly more durable (and more expensive) setups. The lighting situation has improved dramatically with high output LED's, but setups with stands to hold the lights and so forth are pretty costly; you could build your own, or just pay it- with the LED lights a setup will be very durable. A lot of the lamps made for plants only produce the light frequencies that plants actually use (no green, especially)- this is a bit more efficient; it produces a sort of purplish light that you may or may not like, and plants tend to look black under those lights. No problem with full spectrum lights, though- the plants won't use all the frequencies, but they're burning very little electricity so a brighter light won't be a big expense.
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