My bread is coming out dense and not rising enough ( The second rising. )

I keep it in a warm oven to rise but it never gets high enough the 2nd time. The first time it rises great, I make two loves, punch it down, shape the loves, place them in bread pans & they don't rise enough
They come out after an hour ++ flat on top and very dense.

  • Posted by: TBarry1
  • January 19, 2012


Mike J. May 13, 2018
You missed the entire point. The bread is rising fine on the first rise. It is going flat on the second rise. All of your comments reflect the first rise.
Sue H. November 17, 2019
I’m looking for the same answer to your question. Mine rises great the 1st time, but on 2nd time it doesn’t rise at all. I bought and used brand new yeast thinking it was that, but I’m so frustrated at this point. So if u find an answer pls let me know.
This is a pic of my bread
Solene January 3, 2017
Hi! :)

I made a tutorial recently to make homemade bread (you can eat it with sweet food as well as any kind of meal), and I use different method to make bread rise:

I hope it can help you! :)
petitbleu April 3, 2013
I have to agree with the slow rise technique. I know, I know, it's so appealing to have bread in 3 hours or less, but what you lose in time, you gain in flavor and texture. Use cool water, let it rise at room temp--during the winter, your bread will take longer to rise. In the summer, it will rise more quickly. But so long as your yeast is good, your bread will rise. I also think that a lot of bread recipes call for too much yeast--2 1/4 teaspoons (1 pack) is plenty for 2 loaves. In fact, I prefer to cut the amount of yeast in most recipes and just content myself with a longer rise.
ChefJune April 3, 2013
Any chance you didn't knead it enough before the first rise? Or overkneaded it on the 2nd?
Adam F. April 3, 2013
I'm a baker and a lot of what I read above and below is myth. The fact that your bread isn't rising is likely down to not enough kneading. Frankly 5 minutes isn't enough. You need to knead your bread for a good 10 minutes making sure you really stretch the dough. Instead of using flour on the surface, use olive oil and really work it. If you don't knead enough you effectively allow the bread to stay dense and when it tries to rise it can't because its fibres won't allow it too, effectively pulling it back down. Do t add more yeast or anything like that, trust the recipe. You'll know the dough is ready to go into a bowl and rise because the dough will be smooth and pliable and shouldn't stick too much. Also another tip is not to use lukewarm water, this is again complete rubbish. Use cold water and your dough will prove more slowly allowing the bread to develop a better flavour. Warm water just causes the dough to rise quickly which is t a good thing. Good bread is worth waiting for.
Kathleen December 4, 2019
Do you have a recipe that you might share? I'd like to improve on my own recipe and try something new. Do you have a recipe that doesn't need yeast to activate the ingredients to make/rise the bread? My family loves it when I make fresh bread for them.
Sheryl December 10, 2021
My dough wasn't rising the second time. I punched it down, kneaded it for 10 minutes, and tried again. Now it's rising. Thanks!

I think my dough also was a little too wet. I incorporated a little more flour to correct the consistency (not too much, still a soft dough), and I think this also gave the yeast more to eat after a long first rise.

Thanks for sharing your experience.

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boulangere January 19, 2012
Are over-proofing it on the first rise? In other words, if it's too warm, is it climbing out of the bowl and advancing on the cat? If so, you'll get an anemic rise the second time because the raging yeast population has compromised the protein structure of your dough. Too, I'd suggest not punching it down. If you've measured, mixed, kneaded, and proofed appropriately, why make it do the work of producing all that lovely CO2 all over again? Instead, try turning the dough out of its bowl gently, give it a careful shape, and set it to rise the second time. It should proof the second time much faster this way.
TBarry1 January 19, 2012
You rock. I can't wait to try it!
Thank you.
The S. January 19, 2012
Ooops sorry I missed the warm oven part. Any chance it is too warm, causing yeast to wear itself out so to speak? I would recommend warming the oven and then turning it off.
TBarry1 January 19, 2012
Good effort but thats how the first 5 or 6 loves perished. I may try & bump the yeast up more, think that will help or am I cursed??
The S. January 19, 2012
Given the time of year, any chance your kitchen is too cold? Also how old is your yeast?
TBarry1 January 19, 2012
Thought of that too. That's why I used the oven to raise it in. Yeast is fresh, and I warm everything from the bowl up. HELP!
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