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Deep fry volcano - anyone know why?

I was deep frying some fish for tacos, using the flour-liquid-more flour dipping technique. I used the very same recipe I have used for chicken in the past without incident. However, this time I added coconut oil to the fat, hoping for a little hint of flavor from it.

All was going well, I was washing my hands, when I heard a strange sound. I looked over my shoulder to see an absolute volcano of foam coming out of the pot I was frying in. Just froth everywhere.

Anyone ever had this happen? Any ideas? Was it the coconut oil addition? I fry fish for tacos in it all the time, just fish-just coconut oil, but this was the first time I'd coated and deep fried fish with it mixed with other oils.

asked by beejay45 about 5 years ago

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HalfPint
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added about 5 years ago

Was the fish still frozen or partially frozen? It's the only reason I can think of that would produce an oil volcano.

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beejay45
added about 5 years ago

Nope. Out of the fridge maybe 20 minutes before it went into the oil. Thanks, though, that would have been a decent guess.

Trena Heinrich
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added about 5 years ago

Since there wasn't water of any kind as you said it wasn't frozen I'm wondering what kind of fat did you add to the coconut oil?

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pierino
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added about 5 years ago

I'm thinking along the same lines as Trena. Perhaps the reaction was caused by different densities of the cooking oils with two differing smoke points. But I'm also thinking water in the fish as water and oil don't play well together. Also did you check your oil temperature. It should be no higher than 375F.

beejay45
added about 5 years ago

Oh, it was a Heinz 57 of oils. I was using up a variety of leftovers: olive oil, grape seed, high heat sesame. I should say that I had fried some chicken in it a couple days before, without the coconut oil, without problems. I filtered the oil before I reused it, so there shouldn't have been junk left that would affect things. Thanks

beejay45
added about 5 years ago

Oops, I messed up. Pierino, the temp was fine -- I always use a thermometer. Would there have been an effect from moisture in the fish with the double coating? I patted the fish dry first, too, and I would expect spitting maybe but not froth. There was no burning or unpleasant smell, just a huge amount of foam.
Also, now that I think about it, it was extra virgin coconut oil, from a small supplier, and I'm wondering if there may have been bits of coconut stuff in it that could have caused the foaming. As I said, I've only used it to fry on its own prior to this.
Thank you

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ChefOno
added about 5 years ago


I'm not sure I can answer the question from the information given but here are some things to consider:

Ferocious bubbling is the usual reaction when water vaporizes in hot oil, but for bubbles to turn into foam requires some help. Particles either dissolved or suspended in the oil can create a foam (first clue) but the foam will quickly dissipate unless there's something present to stabilize it. That could be lecithin from egg yolks (in your batter or from a previous use) or…

Used oil contains soaps formed by contact with food during prior sessions. That may sound yucky (who wants to eat soap, right?) but it's actually a good thing. The soap helps oil and water "connect" in the same way as when you wash your hands but in this case it improves heat transfer and thus browning. This is why food fried in used oil browns so much better than in new oil. If you've ever wondered why your french fries sometimes don't brown, they're a real b**** to brown in new oil.

However, when oil breaks down, either from being heated to its smoke point or from repeated heatings, it forms free radicals. There's a balancing act required between the benefits of used oil and from taking it too far (or for too many times).



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beejay45
added about 5 years ago

Thanks, ChefOno. This is great information just on general principles. I'm pretty sure I didn't overheat the oil at any point, definitely not to smoking. But you never get really pristine oil, once it's been used, do you? I'm betting on the coconut oil, maybe the mix of oils. Whatever, I'm not going to mix coconut oils with any others ever again. ;) What a mess that was.

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