Choux with rye flour?
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone could offer advice about using alternative flours for pate a choux.
I'm not GF, so I could mix rye and wheat flours. I just think rye choux would pair nicely with summer fruits in a cream puff or eclair.
Thanks!
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If your rye experiment works out well, I suggest also trying buckwheat and stone fruits!
I propose substituting 25 - 50% of your AP flour with rye of any kind. You might want to bake some immediately after you make it, and fry some others a few hours after you make it, and compare the flavor and texture of the two, side by side.
Depending on when your rye flour was harvested and ground, it will or it will not impart any flavor of its own. The extra wait produces more hydration, and it could be a more flavorful dough later... Look for rye flour with speckles in it.
Also, the end batter might be glueyer and might need more time drying out in the oven. 100% rye bread needs 5 - 10X longer to bake than wheat breads! Best of luck and GREAT QUESTION! Flour as flavor - YES!
http://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/rye-party-puffs
Anyway, those ratios allow for interesting taste & texture variations, but still preserve the strength of the wheat for rising and baking.
Another idea (to replace or supplement your choux) is to make pain d'epice, which has rye & wheat flours, nuts, dried fruits, spices. If you plan to serve it with summer fruits, maybe leave out the dried on this round.
I find this one by Pierre Herme (recorded, interpreted by Dorie Greenspan) delicious and reliable:
http://doriegreenspan.com/dorie_greenspan/2007/12/baking-with-dorie-pierre-hermes-fruit-and-spice-loaf.html
http://slice.seriouseats.com/archives/2010/12/pizza-protips-different-kinds-of-flour-spelt-rye-semolina.html
and while it's focused on their use in pizza doughs, the author makes a few relevant points.
The first is that there are several types of rye flour.
The second is that there is less consistency between brands for alternative flours that with standard flours.
The third is that these alternative flours have different hydration characteristics.
If I were to try this, my first batch would be a 50-50 mix of usual all-purpose and rye flour. Which one? Whatever is at the grocery store that is labelled as a lighter rye. I'd use a simple well-tested pâte à choux recipe from a reputable source as the model.
While it has been years since I made pâte à choux, I still can recall the general consistency that I'd be trying to attain and I would be particularly alert to closely monitor hydration levels.
Good luck.