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Smaug
August 4, 2016
The "Uni" oven sounds interesting- I've never worked with wood pellets, but I understand they're pretty easy and neat. I see it fires from the top, which seems a bit unusual- one or two of the reviews did mention disappointing bottom crusts. For comparison, the P. Pronto (mine, at least) maxes at about 750 degrees, but it does heat up quickly- the stone is two part, with a small air gap in between. They claim you can make a 14" pizza, but the opening is only 13 1/2", and it's really best to keep down to about 10" pizzas; it's difficult to be totally accurate sliding a pizza off the peel through the narrow slit, and if you overshoot it is bad. There is a 1" or so gap around the stone for heat circulation, and if you overshoot you won't be able to move it until the crust starts to set; really too late. Free tip; if your pizza sticks to the peel (which it will usually do if you leave it on more than about 10 min.), it can easily be loosened up with a metal spatula. A cookie sheet makes a great peel if you don't want to spring for one- it's best to have at least a couple if you want to make a succession of pizzas. All in all the reviews on the "Uni" are very positive; a few did complain of problems with parts fitting and with rust, but most seemed to have no problems. For the next step, the guy at the local "Barbecues Galore" showed me a non portable outdoor oven that went to something like 1500 degreees- beautiful if you have 5 grand or so to blow.
Alexandra S.
August 4, 2016
That would be SO disappointing! I mean, it's all about the bottom crust. Very interesting about P. Pronto, too, re gaps and narrow slit, etc. — it would be hard to anticipate these issues before actually making a few pies. And you are so right about peels — I have two, which is so nice, because I can assemble one pizza on one and have another free to remove the pizza in the oven. Great tip re sheetpans. I'll have to give that a try.
And I know, a non-portable outdoor wood-fired oven ... it's fun to dream! I'm actually always relieved when I read negative reviews, because it makes me feel I've saved (or earned!) money. I might have to think a little more about that Uni.
And I know, a non-portable outdoor wood-fired oven ... it's fun to dream! I'm actually always relieved when I read negative reviews, because it makes me feel I've saved (or earned!) money. I might have to think a little more about that Uni.
PHIL
August 3, 2016
Hi Alexandra, I saw on your website you were in Lake George, I have a place in Bolton Landing. I probably walked by you at the farmer's market that weekend. Anyway, I use the Bakerstone insert in my BBQ to make pizza. I make fig/prosciutto/ smoked mozzarella combo. Also sliced heirloom tomato & basil over ricotta. I had peach / prosciutto at Co. in NYC recently, really nice. I look forward to trying your broccoli rabe pie..
Alexandra S.
August 3, 2016
So funny! Bolton Landing is so much fun. Next time I want to explore the restaurant scene a little bit more. Very cool re Bakerstone — I've never seen this product! Would be a nice way to avoid turning the kitchen into an oven during the summer. Co. is high on my list of NYC restaurants to get to. I love smoked mozzarella. All of these combos sound delicious!
PHIL
August 3, 2016
Most of the restaurants are just okay. We usually cook home cause we are a big group. Lake George is a great place for kids. Co. is excellent, I am a fan of Sullivan street bakery who owns them.
Alexandra S.
August 3, 2016
Ok, actually that's kind of a relief to hear—we are a big group as well. I have yet to make it to Sullivan Street bakery though I am a big fan of all of Lahey's recipes.
Smaug
August 3, 2016
Trouble with stones and steels, especially in summer, is the extended preheat time. For a really crisp bottom crust, use a perforated pan (perforations should be large, about 1/4") and cook at the bottom of the oven- you also won't need any cornmeal, though I've never had problems with it when using a stone. Parchment and other silicone products are generally not advised above 415-450 degrees; you could use foil if you really want to do it that way.
Alexandra S.
August 3, 2016
So true regarding the long preheat in the summer ... not ideal, but the pizzas have been worth it. I'm intrigued by the perforated pan! Do you grease it? I have a vision of a circular perforated pan from somewhere — do you use circle or rectangle? I use parchment at 550ºF — it chars and sometimes crumbles, but otherwise it works. I'm curious as to why it's not advised at higher temperatures?
Smaug
August 3, 2016
No grease- bread doughs really don't stick to much of anything once they start to cook. I use a circular pan (14")- I think it's Chicago Metallic, though no logo on it. I'm pretty sure I got it at BB&B; not hard to find,, anyway.I have some aluminum pans with smaller holes, but they really don't work as well, not sure why. Also not sure what's with silicone at high temps (other than paper burning), but every silicone product I've used has come with advisories against using it above the temps. I mentioned; I've never considered it worth messing with. I actually use an outdoor pizza oven in summer (Pizzeria Pronto)- it's a fun tool, not horribly expensive and works quite well, though I actually prefer the pizzas I make indoors.
Alexandra S.
August 3, 2016
Thanks for all of this! I'm always looking for alternative ways to cook pizza (and other foods) because everybody's set up is different — I don't mind turning my kitchen into an oven because I can eat outside, but I understand this isn't ideal for everyone :) Going to get my hands on one of those circular perforated pans. I like the Chicago Metallic brand — very reliable. I'm going to look into the parchment paper thing more. Obviously, I don't want to advise people to use it if there's some sort of harmful chemical reaction that occurs at the high temps. Curious about the Pizzeria Pronto, too. I have my eye on this guy: http://uuni.net/
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