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S. N.
September 10, 2016
"The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth" anything less is a lie! - You mention your inspiration but this is NOT that, you degrade the original by comparing your short cut. I'm sure this is fine but don't mention the other. I want the real thing and all the details - I can abreviate short cut on my own knowing this will NOT be the same thing. A perfect example is Serious Eats from Chicago, "it" WAS great, what exists now is NOT the same.
Amanda H.
September 11, 2016
Is it really worth getting so worked up about a salad? And why don't you try it -- a number of readers have liked it!
liz S.
September 10, 2016
The internet will never give you Mrs. Rombauers' comments, which are the true wisdom in the original Joy of Cooking. Some of us like to go back to those ladies who taught readers about cooking.
Greenstuff
August 26, 2016
Looks great! But for those of us with cupboards already filled with a quiver of beans and who do have some time to cook up several batches--any thoughts on the mix?
Greenstuff
August 26, 2016
I should probably note that I have all of Paula Wolfert's cookbooks and have never even seen one of Rachael Ray's!
Amanda H.
August 26, 2016
I'd use any small, creamy white beans, like baby limas or navy along with the chickpeas. And I'd cook them separately so you can get the cooking times right!
Sondi H.
August 25, 2016
I like the moral dilemma, and the story. I have a pantry full of exotic ingredients I bought for one recipe and can't bear to throw them out. I'm busy and I want to make great food. This sounds awesome, and I can't wait to try it.
ChefJune
August 25, 2016
Well, dear friend, you could have ordered several kinds of beans from Rancho Gordo, but I kind of like that you made it easier for everyday cooking. And it also seems to me that the dish would be pretty darn good made with ripe tomatoes, if no green ones are available. Altho of course, again, it will be different from the original. I think this sounds amazing!
EmilyC
August 25, 2016
Paula Ray -- this made me laugh! And I love this article. I always find your recipes to have a high return on investment, and I'm sure this one is no different.
702551
August 25, 2016
It's not a moral dilemma. No one can please everyone all the time. You write for a certain segment of the audience, just like Frederic Chopin didn't write operas and James Joyce didn’t write spy novels.
I see you left out your reasoning from the actual recipe.
https://food52.com/recipes/62040-chickpea-and-green-tomato-salad
That's a shame, you could have put it in the headnote or in the instructions.
Apart from this post, there's no way a future reader of that recipe will know that there's actually a better way to make the dish and your reasoning for simplifying it. You've withheld information that might lead them to raise expectations (something Tony Bourdain extolls).
Most authors of online recipes still don't get it, probably never will. You can write two versions: the quick and simple “here's what attention-deficit order twentysomething Millennials would do” version, and the unabridged ”here’s how your great-grandmother would have made it” version.
This is the difference between a few recipe writers (mostly at Serious Eats) and all other recipe writers. People like Kenji state *WHY* something is being done and what happens if try something else. They sometimes provide shortcuts.
It's the reader's call whether or not to do a procedure faithfully the way it really should be done, or to cut corners for the sake of convenience/time/whatever when this level of information is provided.
Clearly, Serious Eats is addressing the kitchen geek type of reader. That’s not whom every recipe author wants to address.
Food52 can write to a certain audience, but it seems a bit odd to be so apologetic for the exclusion of information for *ONE* recipe via separate article.
Personally, I think you would be better off thinking about what part of the Internet audience you are trying to reach, and proceed from there concerning how you write a recipe.
I see you left out your reasoning from the actual recipe.
https://food52.com/recipes/62040-chickpea-and-green-tomato-salad
That's a shame, you could have put it in the headnote or in the instructions.
Apart from this post, there's no way a future reader of that recipe will know that there's actually a better way to make the dish and your reasoning for simplifying it. You've withheld information that might lead them to raise expectations (something Tony Bourdain extolls).
Most authors of online recipes still don't get it, probably never will. You can write two versions: the quick and simple “here's what attention-deficit order twentysomething Millennials would do” version, and the unabridged ”here’s how your great-grandmother would have made it” version.
This is the difference between a few recipe writers (mostly at Serious Eats) and all other recipe writers. People like Kenji state *WHY* something is being done and what happens if try something else. They sometimes provide shortcuts.
It's the reader's call whether or not to do a procedure faithfully the way it really should be done, or to cut corners for the sake of convenience/time/whatever when this level of information is provided.
Clearly, Serious Eats is addressing the kitchen geek type of reader. That’s not whom every recipe author wants to address.
Food52 can write to a certain audience, but it seems a bit odd to be so apologetic for the exclusion of information for *ONE* recipe via separate article.
Personally, I think you would be better off thinking about what part of the Internet audience you are trying to reach, and proceed from there concerning how you write a recipe.
ChefJune
August 25, 2016
cv - I also liked the story and in order to preserve it, I copied and printed it out to go along with the recipe. FWIW, Amanda is a pretty darned good recipe writer. Have you seen the New York Times Cook Book?
702551
August 25, 2016
No, I haven't seen the New York Times Cookbook, but then again I haven't paid much attention to cookbooks over the past 10-15 years.
In fact, I pruned a third of my cookbook library a few years ago (donated to the city library) and there's definitely another culling in the next few years.
As much as I liked printed cookbooks decades ago, my viewpoint has changed. Online or electronic versions are better because photos and videos are basically free (not like print). Also, with indexed searching, having a bunch of recipes in an article clipping service like Evernote is better than ten cookbooks with individual indexes.
In fact, I pruned a third of my cookbook library a few years ago (donated to the city library) and there's definitely another culling in the next few years.
As much as I liked printed cookbooks decades ago, my viewpoint has changed. Online or electronic versions are better because photos and videos are basically free (not like print). Also, with indexed searching, having a bunch of recipes in an article clipping service like Evernote is better than ten cookbooks with individual indexes.
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