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Jessica D.
May 9, 2017
Great article. Thank you for sharing this. I feel the same way but in the travel space. I grew up in Puerto Rico and I don't know how many times I've pitched stories about Puerto Rico to mainland publications to be ignored or turned down. Then I see the same article from people who have nothing to do with the island. Somehow their opinion is more valued because they are blond. I hope that more articles like this continued to be published. Bravo to the author and the editors of Food52 for making this happen.
Steve W.
January 16, 2017
On a semi-related note, the former "maitre d' to the stars" (who happens to be an Asian woman), has been harassed by a NY Times staffer, after she tried to shed light on her work being misappropriated by a NY Times food columnist...
Seriously, Google: NY Times Staffer Death-Threatens Author for Unveiling Media Misdeeds
There's also a book all about how the media (food and otherwise) literally engaged in multiple improprieties; It's called "PX Me" by Abbe Diaz.
Seriously, Google: NY Times Staffer Death-Threatens Author for Unveiling Media Misdeeds
There's also a book all about how the media (food and otherwise) literally engaged in multiple improprieties; It's called "PX Me" by Abbe Diaz.
Christine L.
January 15, 2017
I appreciate this article and Chuen's work. While I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with learning a Japanese dish from a British chef, the numbers are eye-opening and trigger a greater awareness as to my sources of information, how they inform what I'm trying to learn, and their limitations (and the sources of those limitations--both who is being represented and the representation I seek). Thank you.
Yang L.
January 15, 2017
Finally! I'm so glad someone did the research and wrote about this issue...
sydney
January 15, 2017
Yuk! I prefer to get my bitterness from rapini, and my whine without the H.
Food criticism, food sociology, and food culture critique can be done well, but this is just on-trend, SJW identity-politics groupthink infecting the food world with its resentments. After reading this I feel like I ate the watery gruel from the Soviet Gulag and Mao's re-education camps.
Sorry, Food52, I 'get' that this is the 'soup [politics] du jour' with all the po-mo jargon in it ('hegemony', 'structural problems,' 'privilege'...) but take mine back to the kitchen! I hope this didactic compost doesn't continue on Food52.
If this is where Food52 is going, I'll be looking for my global food fun, recipes, and information elsewhere. Last time I looked, Serious Eats wasn't cooking up Overturn The Patriarchy Pie. You'll see me over there.
Food criticism, food sociology, and food culture critique can be done well, but this is just on-trend, SJW identity-politics groupthink infecting the food world with its resentments. After reading this I feel like I ate the watery gruel from the Soviet Gulag and Mao's re-education camps.
Sorry, Food52, I 'get' that this is the 'soup [politics] du jour' with all the po-mo jargon in it ('hegemony', 'structural problems,' 'privilege'...) but take mine back to the kitchen! I hope this didactic compost doesn't continue on Food52.
If this is where Food52 is going, I'll be looking for my global food fun, recipes, and information elsewhere. Last time I looked, Serious Eats wasn't cooking up Overturn The Patriarchy Pie. You'll see me over there.
Duff
January 17, 2017
Thank you! Voice of reason. SJW now comes to food - sad sad day!
I think SJW should send people out to China and Thailand to make sur that publication there don't have too many Chinese people writing about American food. Social Justice needs to be expanded. Like we bring democracy to the world w must also make sure othe cultures are no guilty of perpetrating these atrocities upon our foods and food culture. BTW I am American-Asian
I think SJW should send people out to China and Thailand to make sur that publication there don't have too many Chinese people writing about American food. Social Justice needs to be expanded. Like we bring democracy to the world w must also make sure othe cultures are no guilty of perpetrating these atrocities upon our foods and food culture. BTW I am American-Asian
Millicent
January 15, 2017
Thank you so much, Lorraine Chuen and Mayukh Sen, for making this issue visible. As you say, it's been so easy for white people in all parts the food world -- chefs, journalists, "foodies" -- not to think about the extent to which different cuisines get mediated through the dominant white culture.
And it's so interesting when people who are completely comfortable with the idea that food is political when it comes to, say, taking a stand against GMOs or the role of big corporations in determining what gets to our dinner tables then turn around and say that food *isn't* political when it comes to ethnic appropriation and their own privilege.
I'm also really enjoying your voice, Mayukh, as an addition to the Food52 team. I love the site and reading the features, but it does feel at times like an over-representation of 20- and 30-something white women from Brooklyn.
And it's so interesting when people who are completely comfortable with the idea that food is political when it comes to, say, taking a stand against GMOs or the role of big corporations in determining what gets to our dinner tables then turn around and say that food *isn't* political when it comes to ethnic appropriation and their own privilege.
I'm also really enjoying your voice, Mayukh, as an addition to the Food52 team. I love the site and reading the features, but it does feel at times like an over-representation of 20- and 30-something white women from Brooklyn.
FamilyStyle F.
January 15, 2017
I wonder- how do know a person's race or their individual cultural history based simply on their byline?
Stephanie
January 14, 2017
Insightful article of things I had experienced, but never thought of. I grew up in a primarily Asian-American school and don't remember being teased for my lunches, but I specifically remembered when I moved away from home and started dating a white guy and I shared one of my favorite Chinese snacks with him with the response "What iiiss this?" And I thought for the first time that my culture and cuisine was "weird."
Kris C.
January 14, 2017
Really thoughtful piece, including the original report by Ms Chuen at the Intersectional Analyst website. It has given me a lot to think about as a white person who thoroughly enjoys eating and cooking ethnic cuisine. Thank you! And please keep it up with these sorts of articles. So valuable to the growing conversation about food justice.
E
January 13, 2017
LOVE LOVE LOVE this. She so eloquently spoke about things I have a hard time verbalizing but am always feeling, so it was definitely a great read. Excited to check out this data project in detail soon!
Agree with Melissa re : you bearing a lot of the outrage from the commenters. Thank you for sharing, and don't let any comments get you down. You raised the article game at Food52 for sure! :)
Agree with Melissa re : you bearing a lot of the outrage from the commenters. Thank you for sharing, and don't let any comments get you down. You raised the article game at Food52 for sure! :)
Barney S.
January 13, 2017
I think that historically, mainstream media, has approached non-traditional foods in a way to make their readers comfortable and familiar with them. Readers learn to trust and relate to ‘Bob’ and take his friendly advice on what and how to eat other’s food. While this might have been appropriate in the past, that does not mean it is now or should not change. Readership changes and writers should too.
I think another matrix to add to the data might be ‘privilege’ of the writers. I think of articles in food mags about “Our Editor’s Must-have Tools” and a $300 whisk is listed, or a $1,000 coffee maker. Or reviewers belittling of topics because they ‘could not imagine’ who would really use/need it. They need a better imagination and a less isolated perspective.
I think the ethnic/owner comparison would also be an interesting report; I cannot think of a non-chain ethnic restaurant I personally know that is not ‘ethnically appropriately’ owned except Rick Bayless’ restaurants. How would the NYC chain of Fresco Tortillas skew this – I think they are all owned/operated by people of Chinese decent.
As a white male of a certain age, whose ancestors came to these shores 100 years before it was the United States, I admit I have never faced my food as political – whatever ‘my food’ is. But I have always enjoyed a diverse palate, and try to as best I can to get as authentic as I can when exploring.
I think another matrix to add to the data might be ‘privilege’ of the writers. I think of articles in food mags about “Our Editor’s Must-have Tools” and a $300 whisk is listed, or a $1,000 coffee maker. Or reviewers belittling of topics because they ‘could not imagine’ who would really use/need it. They need a better imagination and a less isolated perspective.
I think the ethnic/owner comparison would also be an interesting report; I cannot think of a non-chain ethnic restaurant I personally know that is not ‘ethnically appropriately’ owned except Rick Bayless’ restaurants. How would the NYC chain of Fresco Tortillas skew this – I think they are all owned/operated by people of Chinese decent.
As a white male of a certain age, whose ancestors came to these shores 100 years before it was the United States, I admit I have never faced my food as political – whatever ‘my food’ is. But I have always enjoyed a diverse palate, and try to as best I can to get as authentic as I can when exploring.
Kevin
January 13, 2017
This is interesting, the Bon Appetit pho video certainly helped to bring this to the forefront. Personally, I think the responsibility falls more to the reader to be subjective as opposed to the publication itself. Sure, I could go find how to make nuoc mam on NYT or Food Network if I wanted some watered down, Americanized version of how to do it, but is that going to be the most authentic method? Not likely. Obviously I'd rather learn to make nuoc mam from a Vietnamese grandmother, but not everyone has this privilege. It's my responsibility to be a subjective cook and do the research and comparisons among the recipes that are made available to the masses.
I'd much rather prefer that diverse, non-American cuisines & recipes are posted, regardless of the skin color of the author, as opposed to not posted by anyone at all. At least if we are aware that these recipes and cuisines exist, we have more motivation to do some further research about the culture itself. I think food is one of, if not the best way to bring cultures together; we don't need another excuse to drive people apart.
I'd much rather prefer that diverse, non-American cuisines & recipes are posted, regardless of the skin color of the author, as opposed to not posted by anyone at all. At least if we are aware that these recipes and cuisines exist, we have more motivation to do some further research about the culture itself. I think food is one of, if not the best way to bring cultures together; we don't need another excuse to drive people apart.
melissa
January 13, 2017
hadn't heard about this initiative! thanks for sharing and thank you for bearing the brunt of "diversity" on food52, mayukh. hope this post doesn't garner too many white tears...
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