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judy
November 29, 2017
Lots of fire and passion in these comments. So, as I am not Indian, I will refrain from commenting on the question. I just know that I like all the variety that are Indian sauces. but how much do I really know? I am an American with a British background, so most of my knowledge comes thru that journey. I did enjoy the article though.
Tad G.
April 16, 2017
Wherefore the need for a concept called 'mother sauce'?
Does all water taste the same? Is water essential to cooking.?
Are all things called sauces, really so?
You can easily answer your own spurious question.
Does all water taste the same? Is water essential to cooking.?
Are all things called sauces, really so?
You can easily answer your own spurious question.
kiran S.
April 13, 2017
I resent the word curry. Indian food is so vast and so varied. It is such a shame to little it down by using a generic word like curry. Every dish of meat or vegetables can be prepared so differently and doesn't necessarily have a "curry" base. I urge all of you to stop using the curry to describe our ancient, complex, and glorious food heritage. Just call it what it is... Indian food
KB
April 12, 2017
NO, to the question. But, North Indian restaurants (even those in India) prepare just 3 "base" sauces ("mother" sauce, if that's what you want to call it) to simplify the prep work taking into account the time factor and convenience factor. This does NOT mean all Indian (including South Indian) curries or gravies are "mother-sauce-based".
"Herb-based", "Onion-based" curries sound funny. There is NO such thing. If so, every country could "classify" many of their dishes that way. South Indian sauces and gravies have NO such concept. All of them start with a LONG list of raw ingredients, a great deal of PREP & complexity and slow cooking (no shortcuts or boxed/canned mixes), which are also the reasons for Indian cuisine being so very unfairly UNPOPULAR in the rest of the world. It also takes good, well-trained and knowledgeable chefs to execute them perfectly. More than half of the restaurants here in the USA could easily be dubbed anywhere from mediocre to awful. The menu is EXTREMELY limited to a few items from the vast ocean of Indian cuisine. I wonder whatever happened to all "other" dishes. If you want to get the TRUE essence of flavors, head straight to India.
Kurma itself has lots of varieties and each one tastes different from the other. Same thing is true of "coconut milk" based gravies of Kerala (a southern state). It is ridiculous joke to "categorize" Indian cuisine (in its broadest sense, by that I mean it is larger than the ocean) to a few "x-based" curries. In fact, CURRY is an abused and over-used word, when it comes to defining Indian cuisine. It is ignorance to dub Indian cuisine as curry.
Every region (not even state) has its own cuisine and has a mark of its own.
Even the restaurants' "mother-sauce-based" curries have DIFFERENT flavors and tastes.
"Herb-based", "Onion-based" curries sound funny. There is NO such thing. If so, every country could "classify" many of their dishes that way. South Indian sauces and gravies have NO such concept. All of them start with a LONG list of raw ingredients, a great deal of PREP & complexity and slow cooking (no shortcuts or boxed/canned mixes), which are also the reasons for Indian cuisine being so very unfairly UNPOPULAR in the rest of the world. It also takes good, well-trained and knowledgeable chefs to execute them perfectly. More than half of the restaurants here in the USA could easily be dubbed anywhere from mediocre to awful. The menu is EXTREMELY limited to a few items from the vast ocean of Indian cuisine. I wonder whatever happened to all "other" dishes. If you want to get the TRUE essence of flavors, head straight to India.
Kurma itself has lots of varieties and each one tastes different from the other. Same thing is true of "coconut milk" based gravies of Kerala (a southern state). It is ridiculous joke to "categorize" Indian cuisine (in its broadest sense, by that I mean it is larger than the ocean) to a few "x-based" curries. In fact, CURRY is an abused and over-used word, when it comes to defining Indian cuisine. It is ignorance to dub Indian cuisine as curry.
Every region (not even state) has its own cuisine and has a mark of its own.
Even the restaurants' "mother-sauce-based" curries have DIFFERENT flavors and tastes.
Vimalasveggieparadise
March 17, 2017
Trying to get Indian cuisine to fit into a particular stereotype with mother sauces is like trying to fit the whole universe into a nutshell.
Vimalasveggieparadise
March 17, 2017
You have left out heavy made with simple coconut,chana dal, red chillies, coriander seeds, fenugreek seeds, and hing which is predominantly used in South Indian cooking. Also there are many variations to kurma recipes in South India.
scott.finkelstein.5
March 16, 2017
It seems like you could easily create a pretty universal set of mother sauces by focusing on thickening. You'd have your roux sauces (béchamel, veloute), oil emulsions (most tenuous, as I'm not sure if mayos and hollandaise should share a category given their differences in technique), plant matter (tomato, caramelized onion), blitzed herbs (making this one separate because they are broken up mechanically rather than through cooking and usually carry oil rather than water, and your naturally thick and reduced bases (mostly dairy, although coconut milk still works). French cuisine favors the first two, while Indian favors the last two.
Panfusine
March 16, 2017
TO expect a set of mother sauces to cover an entire cuisine without taking into account the regional variations is like the proverbial 4 blindfolded men trying to guess what an elephant is by guessing at its various parts. It may work for a small country like france whose cuisine was definitelvely shaped 200 + years ago., but much more complicated to apply the same simplistic formula for a cuisine that traces its history to at least 3000 years, influenced by assimilation, military incursions , geographical differences and last, but not least, religious influences. Classic blind dumbing down to fit into the definition of restaurant fare and its marketing thereof.
Panfusine
March 16, 2017
Wonder if the concept of 'mother sauces' arose in French cuisine because of the reason it became to be the most well known cuisine in the world. The cuisine was the side effect of the French revolution when the chefs employed by the nobility found themselves out of a job after the revolution. 200 years of a restaurant oriented profession may have shaped the notion of creating standard bases to which different elements are plated over.
In contrast, by definition, Indian cuisine was and to a large extent continues to be home base, influenced by communities and cultures around which they grew. The first real commercial eating establishments to make a mark in Indian culture was after Partition in 1947, when Enterprising Punjabi refugees flooded in and started the first commercial restaurants, which form the basis of most of the dishes mentioned in the article. Countering this were the 'Udipi Hotels' that sprouted in the early 50's by entrepreneurs from the South Indian state of Karnataka who introduced 'South Indian' food to the Metropolises, creating the stereotype that South Indian food is all about Idli, Dosa, Medu vada, coconut chutney & Sambar.
In about a 100 years, Indian food will probably have a version of 'Mother Sauces', but for now, a classification is nebulous at best. If anything there are coconut - & onion , ginger garlic bases that have a delightful variation imposed upon them by state, religion, community & sub community (caste based perhaps) influences.
In contrast, by definition, Indian cuisine was and to a large extent continues to be home base, influenced by communities and cultures around which they grew. The first real commercial eating establishments to make a mark in Indian culture was after Partition in 1947, when Enterprising Punjabi refugees flooded in and started the first commercial restaurants, which form the basis of most of the dishes mentioned in the article. Countering this were the 'Udipi Hotels' that sprouted in the early 50's by entrepreneurs from the South Indian state of Karnataka who introduced 'South Indian' food to the Metropolises, creating the stereotype that South Indian food is all about Idli, Dosa, Medu vada, coconut chutney & Sambar.
In about a 100 years, Indian food will probably have a version of 'Mother Sauces', but for now, a classification is nebulous at best. If anything there are coconut - & onion , ginger garlic bases that have a delightful variation imposed upon them by state, religion, community & sub community (caste based perhaps) influences.
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