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J
February 25, 2023
Thanks for re-airing this article. And thanks especially to the commenters who have added so much more additional value! Oh my, I’ve used so many sharpening methods over the decades, beginning with the hand-held stone recommended by MK when I studied with her in 1970. She promised that the 8 and 10-inch Sabatier chef’s knives on which I spent a week’s paycheck—each—would last a lifetime. They did: 10 years in the kitchen, 40 years in the garden. Note to cooks: an inexpensive, handheld stone, is, however, absolutely invaluable when cooking in a church or community pantry kitchen! Oh my, how valuable that warped little tool has been on so many of those occasions! Not for MY knives (I’ve learned to bring my own and “no, sorry, I’m using it”) but invaluable for sharpening all of the other incredibly-dull knives in the kitchen! But I digress….I acquired a Chef’s Choice perhaps 6-8 years ago. Always, always I have religiously honed 20X with the steel before every single use. However, as I acquired Japanese-style knives, I noted that it the CC didn’t do the trick. Should I buy a more expensive model that pledged to do both? And then i noted that even my many (yes, many: I’m a home-cook knife addict: if you’ve read this thus far, you can relate!) Western-style knives were no longer making the Bob Kramer paper-cut test. I live in the middle of nowhere and I’m not going to entrust my precious knives to my local beloved hardware store for sharpening. So I resolved to use a holiday gift card to buy a whetstone kit but I’m still studying—so thanks so much to the author and commentators for helping with my research!
Smaug
February 25, 2023
My Sabatier knives have held up (still in the kitchen) for 40 years and up; sadly, the company has not. Once producers of world class knives, they were apparently sold to someone who decided to burn the name selling low grade knife sets, a real shame. I asked someone in a kitchen store 10-15 years back if they carried Sabatier, and got a very curious look.
Kenaimiller
January 22, 2023
I have to honest. I just send mine in to knifeflight.com for sharpening. Great customer service and my Japanese knives came back without the chips in the blade. They also offer loaner knives if needed.
J
February 25, 2023
And thanks, Kenaimiller, I’m also going to check out your recommendation for sharpening. It may be that the time has come to do that!
Mar
May 1, 2021
Don’t forget the old superstition- if someone gives you a knife, you must give them a penny or they will have bad luck (or vice-versa, can’t remember which)!
Smaug
November 19, 2020
I bought an electric sharpener several years ago- it did a good job regrinding a bunch of old beat up knives my mother had, but I haven't used it since. The Chef's Choice and similar manual sharpeners do a good job of rough sharpening and maintaining a bevel- you really only need stones for the final stages- producing a microbevel and polishing. Stones vary hugely- mostwoodworkers prefer the Japanese waterstones, but hard Arkansas stones (oilstones) are also very popular; I'd avoid generic stones or any that don't use a lubricant (water or oil), this is a poor place to save a few dollars. For most home cooks diamond stones are probably the best bet. They can be had in quite fine grades (by the way, Japanese and Western knives use completely different scales for the grits), don't need work to keep them flat (a big factor with waterstones, especially), cut fast and are generally easy to use. There are honing guides for straight blades, such as chisels and plane blades, that can make it much easier, but the curves of knife blades don't allow for them- you need to learn how to read and follow your knife's bevel.
vicky
October 13, 2014
how does one sharpen serrated knives?! these are not demonstrated on the video!
chef.luis
June 29, 2012
Since I'm an "scary sharp" fanatic, I'll add my humble 2 cents...
1) If you're interested in keeping your knives sharp without too much work, on a foolproof way, get a chefs choice electric sharpener (There is one model that sharpens western and Japanese blades)
2)If you want to get it up a few notches, get the edgepro sharpening equipment, you'll get almost professional results without the big learning curve involved in freehand sharpening, and you'll get "scary sharp" edges without scratching or damaging your knives.
3) My favorite... Freehand sharpening, get a set of at least 3 different stones (Coarse, medium and fine grit), a good strop, a nice ceramic honing rod and get ready to learn.
I'm a knife junkie and I enjoy big time to have a razor sharp (And I mean... really razor sharp) blade that cuts easy and clean thru veggies and meats. There is nothing like the sensation and the results of a nice sharp edge.
If you want to get serius in the subject , there are a couple of great suppliers of knives and sharpening gear one is chefknivestogo and the other is japaneseknivesimports both sellers are top notch and absolutely professionals . Best regards.
1) If you're interested in keeping your knives sharp without too much work, on a foolproof way, get a chefs choice electric sharpener (There is one model that sharpens western and Japanese blades)
2)If you want to get it up a few notches, get the edgepro sharpening equipment, you'll get almost professional results without the big learning curve involved in freehand sharpening, and you'll get "scary sharp" edges without scratching or damaging your knives.
3) My favorite... Freehand sharpening, get a set of at least 3 different stones (Coarse, medium and fine grit), a good strop, a nice ceramic honing rod and get ready to learn.
I'm a knife junkie and I enjoy big time to have a razor sharp (And I mean... really razor sharp) blade that cuts easy and clean thru veggies and meats. There is nothing like the sensation and the results of a nice sharp edge.
If you want to get serius in the subject , there are a couple of great suppliers of knives and sharpening gear one is chefknivestogo and the other is japaneseknivesimports both sellers are top notch and absolutely professionals . Best regards.
johndiggity
June 28, 2012
The AccuSharp knife sharpener on Amazon is the best $9 I've spent. Totally idiot proof. The downside is it only works on Western-style knives.
sygyzy
June 28, 2012
Bobby has some great advice. Before home cooks try their hand at sharpening, I would advise spending some time to read up on the topic and educate themselves on it before potentially messing up their expensive knives. If in doubt, get your knife sharpened by a professional and by that I mean someone who specializes in different types of knives and steels, not your neighborhood butcher. Also, please don't run your knives through electric machines that just mangle up your edge. Once your knife is sharpened, the best thing you can do for it is to use a honing steel to re-align the edge before or after each use. A steel does not sharpen an edge, it just brings things back in-line.
himynameisjs
June 28, 2012
Great video--I love this series!
One question I've had for a long time but haven't ever gotten around to asking: what kind of knives does Amanda have? They're beautiful!
One question I've had for a long time but haven't ever gotten around to asking: what kind of knives does Amanda have? They're beautiful!
Kristy M.
June 28, 2012
That knife was a gift from her brother-in-law. He brought it back from a trip he took to Japan -- lucky her!
She's also got knives by henckles and global in the kitchen. Also lots of gorgeous knives she's picked up over the years that don't have brand names on them.
She's also got knives by henckles and global in the kitchen. Also lots of gorgeous knives she's picked up over the years that don't have brand names on them.
bobby B.
June 28, 2012
Great video. I think its important to add that the method shown should only be recommended for Japanese knives with a 50/50 bevel. Some japanese knives only have a one sided bevel or a 80/20 which changes how many strokes per side you sharpen.
Also non Japanese knifes like wusthof or henkels have softer steel, therefore the penny trick gets too shallow of an angle (approx. a 12.5 degree angle). By all means use a stone for non japanese knives, just stand up the knife for a 90 degreee, half it once for 45 degrees and one more time for about 22.5 which is closer to where you want to be to get lasting sharpness.
Also non Japanese knifes like wusthof or henkels have softer steel, therefore the penny trick gets too shallow of an angle (approx. a 12.5 degree angle). By all means use a stone for non japanese knives, just stand up the knife for a 90 degreee, half it once for 45 degrees and one more time for about 22.5 which is closer to where you want to be to get lasting sharpness.
Amanda L.
June 28, 2012
bobby - that's a very good point about the one-sided bevel. thanks for bringing that up!
i've had relative success using the stone on my western knives but i find it takes a little longer to sharpen or re-make the edge (if it's been completely dulled) since western blades are so thick. will try using the 90-45-22.5 sharpening method, thanks!
i've had relative success using the stone on my western knives but i find it takes a little longer to sharpen or re-make the edge (if it's been completely dulled) since western blades are so thick. will try using the 90-45-22.5 sharpening method, thanks!
sygyzy
June 28, 2012
You can also try adding a few coarser stones to your kit, such as a 500 or 700.
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