mustard essence

making mostarda, found mustard oil at a specialty store nearby but it's not quite right. i see bach, flower essence, and some other brands online; wondering if anyone has a specific recommendation. thanks!

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Panfusine
Panfusine July 6, 2013

Mustard oil is a Pantry staple for East Indian (bengali) cuisine and I'd recommend looking for mustard oil from an Indian Grocery store (I usually rely on Dabur Brand).

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Rebecca Vitale
Rebecca Vitale July 6, 2013

thanks, panfusine-- i actually do have mustard oil, but i've used something stronger making mostarda in italy, purchased at a pharmacy, and am looking for that. i'm think i'm going to try bach brand mustard essence, which comes in a dropper bottle. was just wondering if anyone reading the hotline had a brand recommendation since i'm shooting in the dark a little with no farmacia around!

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susan g
susan g July 7, 2013

Bach flower remedies are made from water infusions of flowers in water, in the sun. No culinary application.



Mostarda




Mostarda is an Italian condiment made of candied fruit and a mustard flavoured syrup. Commercially the essential oil of mustard is employed, which has the advantage of transparency; in home cooking mustard powder heated in white wine may be used. Wikipedia

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susan g
susan g July 7, 2013

Have you looked at this recipe? The cook is a chef in Portugal who has lived in Italy. http://food52.com/recipes...

Rebecca Vitale
Rebecca Vitale July 7, 2013

yes! i read this since posting the original question, so i realize i am in fact not looking for what bach is offering: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081110064349AAQ5kS8


thanks!

Rebecca Vitale
Rebecca Vitale July 7, 2013

i did see the mostarda mantovana and it does not have a source listed for what i am looking for. regular mustard oil is too oily, and the substitute with mustard powder listed in the wikipedia article really has no comparison to what is used in cremona/italy. still on the search for the essential oil! checking italian sites, will report back.

sexyLAMBCHOPx
sexyLAMBCHOPx July 7, 2013

Is there a favorite, authentic Italian restaurant or grocery near you? If so, stop in and talk to them about sourcing.

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Rebecca Vitale
Rebecca Vitale July 7, 2013

in italy, the essenza di mostarda is purchased in the pharmacy; food purveyors don't carry it, even there. i was hoping (naively) that mustard oil, once i found it, would work (it didn't), and then hoping that someone on here would already have a source online (anyone to the rescue?). there are a multitude of italian grocers nearby as i live in an historic italian neighborhood of brooklyn, but none of them will be carrying what i'm looking for, unfortunately. nor does sahadi's (nor kalustyan's, i imagine). will need to track this down online.

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Rebecca Vitale
Rebecca Vitale July 7, 2013

essenza di senape, i meant! scusate

sexyLAMBCHOPx
sexyLAMBCHOPx July 7, 2013

what about calling or taking a trip to Arthur Avenue grocers or Eataly? Did you send a message to Maria Teresa Jorge for suggestions?

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sexyLAMBCHOPx
sexyLAMBCHOPx July 7, 2013

Maybe they can recommend an Italian pharmacy source - good luck.

Rebecca Vitale
Rebecca Vitale July 7, 2013

i found some! shipping is nontrivial compared to price, though. it costs $135 total to ship twelve 15mL bottles to the US (anyone?). http://www.erboristeriagiorgioni.it/senape-essenza/

on the regular product page (not US 12-pack) it says this is what's used to make mostarda.

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Rebecca Vitale
Rebecca Vitale July 7, 2013

+ $8 s&h = $143 total, actually. in any case, still surveying options...

mary pezzuto
mary pezzuto November 14, 2013

I might want in on that order! Can u first get a sample or confirm this is an acceptable/right product, from an Italian chef, cook, or reputable delicatessen? My mostarda recipe calls for essence of orange & essence of mustard, so I'm looking too.

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Rebecca Vitale
Rebecca Vitale November 14, 2013

Mary, also, thanks for reminding me to get back on this! I have a good feeling it will work out one of these days.

AntoniaJames
AntoniaJames November 14, 2013

Are you sure that they'll ship to the U.S.? I understand that product has been banned in here as it is considered a national security threat, given that it can be used in chemical warfare. (I'm not kidding. Ever hear of mustard gas?) I've been told that it is extremely strong, i.e., that only a drop or two is all that's needed to flavor mostarda. I'd want to check to see if someone has actually received a shipment of this, delivered to their door, in the U.S. I'd hate to go to the trouble and expense of purchasing it and then find that U.S. customs has confiscated it (at your loss). ;o)

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Rebecca Vitale
Rebecca Vitale November 14, 2013

Hi Mary-- This is the right product. The Italian on the page, -- "Essenza di senape super concentrata ideale per preparare la mostarda" -- means, "super-concentrated mustard essence ideal for the preparation of mostarda."

They were offering larger packages to ship abroad (incl to the US) but now seem to be out of stock and waiting on new inventory. I'll check in every once in a while and see if there is progress!

AntoniaJames, I think it's worth a shot, for sure! I personally would not substitute anything else into a mostarda, so it's the oil or nothing for me :) There really is no comparison whatsoever.

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Rebecca Vitale
Rebecca Vitale November 14, 2013

Here is the out-of-stock message: "Essenza di senape super concentrata ideale per preparare la mostarda. ml. 15 PRODOTTO AL MOMENTO ESAURITO ATTENDIAMO NUOVA PRODUZIONE"

(I speak Italian FYI)

Vico
Vico December 23, 2014

Rebecca,
I normally have my family, in Italy, send it to me. I've searched for it for years here in the US. If you have any family or friends in Italy have them buy it at a drogheria and mail it to you. Nothing you can buy here, including dry mustard, is an acceptable substitute. Best of luck.

Rebecca Vitale
Rebecca Vitale December 23, 2014

Thanks, Vico!! I'm so happy to have a fellow appreciator of the real deal, hahaha. Still trying, wish me luck! Happy mostarda-making.

Germano
Germano January 9, 2014

What about here: http://www.amazon.com/gp...

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LarAl2015
LarAl2015 August 15, 2015

This is one of the two threads I came across while searching for this 'essential' ingredient to make Mostarda di Cremona. It seems there is a huge amount of misinformation floating about on the web about this. Many recipes use prepared mustard powder or Indian 'mustard oil' or other wrong ingredients. Even Batali got it wrong. The right ingredient is called 'mustard essential oil'. It is steam distilled, not cold pressed like the Indian variant. I finally found a source of the real thing on eBay and posted a new thread on the subject:

https://food52.com/hotline...

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