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How to save my vegetable stock

I'm making vegetable stock right now, and it's been going for around an hour and a half. Just tasted it and it was super bitter -- and then, duh, remembered I had put dandelion greens stems in there. Is it save-able? If I keep it cooking will the sweetness of the other veg help? Let me know!

asked by Brette Warshaw almost 3 years ago
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added almost 3 years ago

Perhaps adding more carrotts and sweet onions, if you had them, would help cut the bitterness? Even just regular onions, with their stronger flavor, would mask that bitter bite.

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added almost 3 years ago

Tomato paste is acidic. If you do try adding carrots, don't use the peel as that can be bitter as well. Selecting ingredients for stock should always be done with care. A good ratio to go by is three parts water, one part mirepoix (carrot, celery, onion), and one part additional vegetables. Avoid adding greens and cruciferous (broccoli, cabbage, cress) vegetables because of their strong flavors. Good luck!

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Pegeen

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added almost 3 years ago

Parsnips? Sweet potato?

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AntoniaJames

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added almost 3 years ago

For future reference, you really don't need to simmer vegetable stock any longer than 45 minutes. (I've found that all other things being equal, longer simmering vegetable stocks become bitter, even without any offending ingredients. Celery can also make stock bitter.) Several well-respected chefs advise to stop at 45 minutes for a different reason. At that point, the vegetables have broken down to the point where they start absorbing the stock, so you end up throwing that flavor into the green waste bin, compost, etc. I find that peppercorns make stock bitter, too. (I read somewhere that I'm not alone in this. The proprietress of Boulette's Larder in the Ferry Plaza Building also does not use peppercorns in her $16/quart stock, for that reason.) ;o)

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Pegeen

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added almost 3 years ago

This topic would make a great column!

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SKK
added almost 3 years ago

Totally agree with AJ. Another idea is the best vegetable stock I have ever tasted from 101 cookbooks and is a homemade vegetable bouillon. Have it in my freezer always. http://www.101cookbooks...

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SKK
added almost 3 years ago

So miss the edit button. Meant to say the best vegetable stock I have ever had comes from a recipe from 101 cookbooks and the base is a vegetable bouillon. Divine. http://www.101cookbooks...

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luvcookbooks

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added almost 3 years ago

I agree that this would be a great topic for a column. I make a nice mushroom stock from a Deborah Madison recipe but other vegetable stocks elude me and I end up using water.

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added almost 3 years ago

Would love to see this topic featured in the food52 column How to Cook Without a Recipe. Much of what I learned about making vegetable stock is from Deborah Madison in Vegetarian Cooking for Everyone. I also cook vegetable stocks for no longer than 45 minutes. Other great tips from Deborah that seem to make a difference: 1) Cut vegetables small (about 1 inch), so that maximum surface area is exposed. 2) For deeper, richer flavor, brown vegetables first in a bit of oil or butter before adding water. 3) After cooking, strain. If vegetables and herbs steep in the liquid for too long, they may give the stock a bitter taste.

This link also has great info about making all kinds of stock: http://www.sfgate.com/food...

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AntoniaJames

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added almost 3 years ago

Yes, NB as well that hard herb stems in particular can cause bitterness, even when cooked for shorter periods. I've learned the hard way that I must remove the leaves from the branches of my lush (gorgeous to look at) rosemary. It imbues a harsh resinous taste.

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AntoniaJames

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added almost 3 years ago

Following up on the point made above that the stock should not be cooked for more than 45 minutes: I went back to check my notes and this and found this Hotline thread on chicken stock from two years ago that may interest you: http://food52.com/hotline... It was Ruhlman who passed on the advice about the 45 minute maximum time for the vegetables to cook in the stock. ;o)

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added almost 3 years ago

That sfgate article is a great fine.

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Diana B

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added almost 3 years ago

Cookinginvictoria, thanks so much for posting that link - as ATG says, it's a great find!

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added almost 3 years ago

i've been making vegetable stock by tossing the trimmings from vegetables as i prepare them for dinner--carrot tops, thick parsley stems, onion peels, chard stems, red pepper shoulders and cores, etc--directly into the ceramic bowl of my 1.5 qt slow cooker. i add water and cook it on low overnight. next day, just strain and there is lovely broth for making soup for lunch, or for other dishes at dinner. i haven't had any trouble with bitterness, maybe due to the lower cooking temperature? and i do avoid cabbage family trimmings.