love the pie, but it won't set! :(

I love this pie! This is my third year making it (fourth time though, because I made two this year) and something went terribly wrong with both…. The middle never set. I cooked the first one for about an hour and ten minutes, and then the second one I cooked for an hour and 25!! and neither one set. and the crust was way overdone on the second one, as I guess would be expected for baking so long. I doubled and triple checked the ingredients and measurements and everything was right. My only thought was that I ended up putting the ingredients in the blender to mix bc the kitchenaid left it pretty clumpy and grainy, so I threw it in the processor for a few quick pulses to get it smooth. could that have affected the chemistry of it that much to prevent it from cooking/setting properly?? I'm stumped.

Melissa
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  • November 22, 2023
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Sister Pie's Salted Maple Pie
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Lori T. November 22, 2023
I think you have a couple problems. The first may be that while you do want the ingredients to be whipped together well, you can actually overdo it. I think yes, the blender might have been just a step to far. Your pie is depending on the bonds of the eggs with the flour and cornmeal, and the blender might have damaged those more than baking could overcome. You can beat it pretty well to remove the clumps, even though I know the recipe says to whisk just until combined. It takes a bit more whisking that say, incorporating egg whites in an angel food cake. Even so, the pie is going to be a tad grainy because of that cornmeal. It might not set for a few reasons. Yeah, the recipe says about an hour. But that time could vary depending on your oven, how much water your eggs contained, how humid it is in your kitchen, how the moon sits, etc. ( not serious about the moon part :). Anyway, you need to let the pie have the time it thinks it needs to set almost firm to the middle, maybe with just a dime size bit that jiggles slightly in the middle. If your crust is getting too brown, shield it with some foil. Be sure to let it cool well before you even think of cutting it- that 5-6 hour rest is essential, and overnight is not a bad idea honestly. Finally , if you think perhaps your egg yolks are on the smallish side- you can always add in one extra yolk. One final observation, for what it's worth. I've never found a prebaked pie crust helpful for custard, chess or transparent type pies. They take so long to bake that the crust ends up threatening to be overbaked, and the long bake means a soggy crust is hardly going to be a threat. At best, I would only parbake this one, just enough to dry the top, if you are determined to do so. Otherwise, I would make the crust and fill it unbaked.
 
Melissa November 22, 2023
I think you’re right, it has to be the blender, that’s the most likely culprit here. I did make the crust from scratch, and blind baked, so I’m sure that didn’t help the crust situation. Lol. Although at the time I obliviously didn’t realize I would have bake time issues. So you don’t bake your crust for this one at all before pouring the filling in? The first one I let cool overnight, about 12 hours before taking it to a women’s soup and pie for breakfast event, the second one I flash cooled in the freezer, so I’m sure it was still a bit soft, but it also baked a lot longer, so you’d think that would have off set it. I guess either way it didn’t work. One with plenty of cool time and slightly longer bake time (1hr 10m+), the second one way too much bake time probably (1hr 25m) but just not fully cooled.

I guess the next time I do it I will definitely be sure to stick to the stand mixer, go slowly with incorporating ingredients, and try going with the raw crust straight out of the gate.
 
Lori T. November 22, 2023
I make one very similar, as well as other chess, custard and transparent pies- and I don't prebake any of the crust/shells. The only time I do that is for a fruit pie that will not have a top crust, or one I will fill with a pudding- so coconut, banana or chocolate cream. This recipe does call for a prebaked pie crust, though I am not sure why other that old standing habits. It also calls for just 3 eggs plus a yolk to set what would amount to about 2 cups of liquid- and that's kind of pushing things IMO. So you might consider adding in another yolk to help hold things together, too. Anyway, Happy Thanksgiving and good baking!
 
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