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AS
July 1, 2016
I'm a big fan of Yotam Ottolenghi. I own and have cooked many dishes from Nopi, Jerusalem, and Plenty (I just bought plenty more, which seems pretty good as well). However, I must admit that while he does a brilliant job getting flavors of freshness and brightness, there's something about a lot of his recipes that fall a little flat on my palette. I think i've pinned it on a distinct lack of savoriness? (i'm prett liberal with the salt so that's not really the issue)
I'm a big fan of east asian recipes that have a lot of umami in them and I find that quality is somewhat lacking in ottolenghi's recipes (i'm also a vegetarian, so this isn't just a "no meat" complaint). Has anybody else experienced something similar? How do you adjust? Should i be sprinkling a little nutritional yeast/marmite/msg/liquid aminos into his recipes?
I'm a big fan of east asian recipes that have a lot of umami in them and I find that quality is somewhat lacking in ottolenghi's recipes (i'm also a vegetarian, so this isn't just a "no meat" complaint). Has anybody else experienced something similar? How do you adjust? Should i be sprinkling a little nutritional yeast/marmite/msg/liquid aminos into his recipes?
Nancy
July 1, 2016
AS - interesting point. Would you please name or link to one or two of his recipes where you want more savoriness? That might give us more to work with on suggestions...
AS
July 1, 2016
So, for example, i made the Roasted Eggplant with Black Garlic, Pine Nuts, and Basil (https://www.yahoo.com/style/roasted-eggplant-with-black-garlic-pine-nuts-and-182004966.html) from Nopi twice and I just couldn't get into it. I was also underwhelmed by his Baked eggs with yogurt and chili from plenty (http://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/skillet-baked-eggs-with-spinach-yogurt-and-chili-oil).
His hummus recipe (http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2012/11/basic-hummus-from-jerusalem-ottolenghi.html) also didn't really do it for me until i started making it with Solomonov's' tahini sauce (http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2016/03/israeli-style-tahini-sauce-recipe.html)
The Urad Dal Puree with Hot and Sour Eggplant (http://www.tastebook.com/blog/recipes/4319021-Urad-Dal-Puree-with-Hot-and-Sour-Eggplant/?redirect=true) also were a little underwhelming, as were the chickpea patties with coconut curry paste (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/sep/05/yotam-ottolenghi-recipes-new-book-extract-the-cookbook) (I liked the patty because they tasted like a spicy falafel, but again, the coconut was meh.
Similar to my complaints with the coconut I found the Celeriac purée with spiced cauliflower and quail’s eggs: http://www.ottolenghi.co.uk/celeriac-puree-with-spiced-cauliflower-and-quail-s-eggs-shop to taste kind of weird as the raw cauliflower was really offputting to me.
His hummus recipe (http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2012/11/basic-hummus-from-jerusalem-ottolenghi.html) also didn't really do it for me until i started making it with Solomonov's' tahini sauce (http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2016/03/israeli-style-tahini-sauce-recipe.html)
The Urad Dal Puree with Hot and Sour Eggplant (http://www.tastebook.com/blog/recipes/4319021-Urad-Dal-Puree-with-Hot-and-Sour-Eggplant/?redirect=true) also were a little underwhelming, as were the chickpea patties with coconut curry paste (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/sep/05/yotam-ottolenghi-recipes-new-book-extract-the-cookbook) (I liked the patty because they tasted like a spicy falafel, but again, the coconut was meh.
Similar to my complaints with the coconut I found the Celeriac purée with spiced cauliflower and quail’s eggs: http://www.ottolenghi.co.uk/celeriac-puree-with-spiced-cauliflower-and-quail-s-eggs-shop to taste kind of weird as the raw cauliflower was really offputting to me.
Nomnomnom
July 2, 2016
AS, for what it's worth, I have the same experience. (And I'm also vegetarian.) I tend to think his recipes lack acid and end up squeezing lemon over. Some simply are not balanced. But as of now I've just stopped making recipes from his books. The pictures are nice though.
healthierkitchen
August 3, 2016
AS, I do happen to be a fan of Ottolenghi's recipes, or at least the ones I've tried, but Solomonov's hummus, and how he makes the tahina sauce first, is a game changer. My daughter and I did a side by side comparison of the two recipes back in January and while both were good tasting, the consistency of the Zahav hummus was fantastic and remained so for the few days we kept it refrigerated. Ottolenghi's was good the first day, but didn't hold well; it got much too dense.
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