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Elaine
April 6, 2017
Barbaric practices of any kind, such as those seen in the 'harvesting' of fins from living sharks, should be banned worldwide, full stop. So should 'factory' farming of beef and other animals, and for the same reason. We shouldn't care about the hurty-feels of individuals who have fond memories of the results of these barbaric practices. Get over it, and grow up. This isn't good animal husbandry; it's butchery.
Joan S.
February 10, 2017
This is a ridiculous conclusion. Just because your ancestors did it and you think you are being respectful to your guests. We know better now and shark fin soup in acceptable for any reason, I am not sure if I am going great to read Food52 anymore.
Joan S.
February 10, 2017
I made a mistake above -- I meant shark soup is NOT acceptable for any reason. I am not sure if I am going to read Food52 anymore.
Martin B.
January 27, 2017
Reading this piece was a through-the-looking-glass experience. It's all about a minority feeling picked upon and not about the reason for the shark fin ban: that shark populations around the world are plummeting because of the money to be made. If they continue to fall, it will have a catastrophic impact on marine ecosystems.
It's also takes a very insular American viewpoint. China has the largest population in the world and it the misguided status-driven demand from there that has created this problem. Ethnic Chinese might be a minority in the US but not on a global scale. Come on, Food52, if you aspire to journalism, you have to do better than this.
It's also takes a very insular American viewpoint. China has the largest population in the world and it the misguided status-driven demand from there that has created this problem. Ethnic Chinese might be a minority in the US but not on a global scale. Come on, Food52, if you aspire to journalism, you have to do better than this.
sydney
January 26, 2017
Food52 is weakest when it gets political. The [fill in the blank]-as-victim is coming straight from the trendy, on-point Social Justice Warrior network. Stretches credulity when it bleeds into the food media. An Asian-American is victimized if he can't get a bowl of shark fin soup? Really? My immigrant ancestors arrived here with a bunch of backward habits that we've since discarded. Big deal.
The Food52 perspective is backward: The issue on a shark fin ban needs to be on the actual shark victim, not fantasy human victim. And casting -- no fishing pun intended -- the Chinese as a powerless minority group is statistically/demographically/globally bizarre. Why no quote on the ban from an Air China representative?
Further, I see no double standard: pro-organic, anti-GMO, anti-industrial food Americans of all 'ethnicities' have been fighting corporate food culture with their awful policymakers (not all of whom are demon Christian white men) for a few decades.
Unfortunate to see Food52 embracing SJW victim culture and inviting it into the kitchen. If Food52 wants to be so edgy and controversial, it could start by reading PubMed research and asking questions about GMO foods, aluminum in the kitchen, silicone baking material, factory-farmed meat, herbicides and pesticides, BPA plastics, the sugar lobby, and a host of other food issues that affect ALL humans on the planet, not just particular whining "victim" groups.
The Food52 perspective is backward: The issue on a shark fin ban needs to be on the actual shark victim, not fantasy human victim. And casting -- no fishing pun intended -- the Chinese as a powerless minority group is statistically/demographically/globally bizarre. Why no quote on the ban from an Air China representative?
Further, I see no double standard: pro-organic, anti-GMO, anti-industrial food Americans of all 'ethnicities' have been fighting corporate food culture with their awful policymakers (not all of whom are demon Christian white men) for a few decades.
Unfortunate to see Food52 embracing SJW victim culture and inviting it into the kitchen. If Food52 wants to be so edgy and controversial, it could start by reading PubMed research and asking questions about GMO foods, aluminum in the kitchen, silicone baking material, factory-farmed meat, herbicides and pesticides, BPA plastics, the sugar lobby, and a host of other food issues that affect ALL humans on the planet, not just particular whining "victim" groups.
Kimberly
January 27, 2017
I didn't perceive this to be about the Chinese, as much as it is about the political stance of Asian Americans, specifically Chinese Americans. China's politics are not the US's politics, and in American politics and culture, Asian Americans are a minority. I don't see anything wrong with questioning the motives of legislation that seemingly targets one group. I also don't see how this plays into "victim culture;" political positioning often produces scapegoats out of minority groups and the marginalized. So while I agree with Tami that finding a more sustainable and humane way to fish these sharks would be preferable, I also think it's at least worth examining the reasons why, as Francis argues, this seems to be a big issue for politicians that don't also go after Big Agriculture, factory-farmed meat as you mentioned, the effects of food lobbies on American diets, etc. it could go on.
Mayukh: another good piece, I think you open a lot of discussions on Food52 that are worth having
Mayukh: another good piece, I think you open a lot of discussions on Food52 that are worth having
aroseygoat
January 27, 2017
Sydney, I encourage you to give some more thought to your opinion that social justice shouldn't be "invited into the kitchen". From my perspective, food--it's production, our access to it, the culture around its consumption, etc.--is an important part of the overall conversation about equity. Yes, the production of shark fin soup is problematic, and arguably the culture around its consumption is/needs to be shifting (both in the United States and abroad). But, the production of most of our beef/eggs/almonds/etc. is also problematic, and the culture around those foods' consumption also must change. We're not going to come up with a workable plan for the culture shifts that need to take place unless we talk about it, and I think that Food52 is one really good venue for having this conversation.
I, for one, am really happy to see Food52 address environmental and human justice issues as they relate to food. Thanks!
I, for one, am really happy to see Food52 address environmental and human justice issues as they relate to food. Thanks!
Tara
January 26, 2017
Wonderful article. I love that you and Francis clearly point out how policy makers pick and choose their battles. I wish there were more examples of government being brave and standing up against more formidable opponents.
Sophie
January 26, 2017
This is a tough (and controversial) subject.
People don't like killing sharks and consider the method in which is done is barbaric (which it is.) But our system of factory farming is also cruel, brutal, and inhumane.
Anyone who is against shark fin soup and eats factory farmed animals is a hypocrite. There is absolutely an attitude of "otherness" going on here, which helps people distinguish their eating habits apart from someone else's. It's not nice to admit we might also be wrong.
People don't like killing sharks and consider the method in which is done is barbaric (which it is.) But our system of factory farming is also cruel, brutal, and inhumane.
Anyone who is against shark fin soup and eats factory farmed animals is a hypocrite. There is absolutely an attitude of "otherness" going on here, which helps people distinguish their eating habits apart from someone else's. It's not nice to admit we might also be wrong.
Tami P.
January 26, 2017
Factory farming is a nasty business, I agree, and I do not buy or use any of their products. I am lucky enough to be financially able to make that choice. Many are not. I think shark fins are different because they are a luxury item. Again, I would feel differently about it if the entire shark were harvested and used in a humane and sustainable way.
Max H.
January 26, 2017
I disagree with the harvesting of Shark fins due to its ecological impacts and in general disagree with Francis Lam in three major regards:
1. Shark fins are harvested in such a way that all it does is cause unnecessary pain to living animals that studies have shown to be the smartest of all species of fish.
2. Even if all of the shark is used there would be a greater demand for it so it will become cheaper and people will start to harvest more of it which will result in less predators resulting in a destroyed ecosystem.
3. To compare factory farming to Shark fins is understandable, they both harm the environment massively and cause pollution but the reason people aren't picking on factory farms as much at the moment is because of the scale of the problems. The shark fin business is minute in comparison to the factory farming business and factory farming, unlike harvesting shark fins, isn't currently illegal in all senses of the word. It is sensible to crunch down on the weaker Shark fin business in comparison to the factory farming conglomerate.
1. Shark fins are harvested in such a way that all it does is cause unnecessary pain to living animals that studies have shown to be the smartest of all species of fish.
2. Even if all of the shark is used there would be a greater demand for it so it will become cheaper and people will start to harvest more of it which will result in less predators resulting in a destroyed ecosystem.
3. To compare factory farming to Shark fins is understandable, they both harm the environment massively and cause pollution but the reason people aren't picking on factory farms as much at the moment is because of the scale of the problems. The shark fin business is minute in comparison to the factory farming business and factory farming, unlike harvesting shark fins, isn't currently illegal in all senses of the word. It is sensible to crunch down on the weaker Shark fin business in comparison to the factory farming conglomerate.
HalfPint
January 26, 2017
I feel the same way as @Tami Pu'u. I've had shark fin soup at weddings. It's good, but my impression was that it was on the menu to show off family wealth and prestige. Like "Look at us, we have enough money to have shark fin soup at this wedding". I'm sure this is not the intent on the part of the family. Truth be told, I find the imitation shark fin to be just as delicious as the real thing, without the guilt and harm to sharks and the ecosystem.
foofaraw
January 26, 2017
But it is, "Look at us, we have enough money to have shark fin soup at this wedding" is partly the reason why shark fin soup, abalone, etc can be in wedding menu. Wealth is part of 'saving face'. Vegetables are not good enough for saving face, unless it is made by 5star chef (then again, it will be correlated to wealth again because it shows that you are wealthy enough to pay that 5 star chef)
Tami P.
January 26, 2017
It's not a matter of disliking the dish, it's how the fins are collected. They catch the shark, slice off the fins, and return the animal to the ocean to die. I wouldnt have a problem with responsnble, sustainable fishing of shark where the whole animal is used.
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