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SarahDC
April 18, 2020
I'm not one to post comments but I used to go to Patel Brothers in New York and now in DC where I live. Until I discovered that their leadership has used revenue to support a lot of genocidal policies against lower castes in India and does on a regular basis. http://southasiajournal.net/activists-plan-boycott-of-us-companies-backing-indias-anti-muslim-policies/
I'm so sick of seeing violence and discrimination in the diaspora. Patel Brothers hiring policies are also to never hire an Indian Muslim and this has been shared widely as well. You don't have to listen to me, it's your life. However it's something to inform your decision. Remember there's tons of other south Asian grocery stores! They need our support too! At least by going to a smaller grocery store, you'll be putting money in the pockets of a family in your community and you'll see that the difference is huge!
I'm so sick of seeing violence and discrimination in the diaspora. Patel Brothers hiring policies are also to never hire an Indian Muslim and this has been shared widely as well. You don't have to listen to me, it's your life. However it's something to inform your decision. Remember there's tons of other south Asian grocery stores! They need our support too! At least by going to a smaller grocery store, you'll be putting money in the pockets of a family in your community and you'll see that the difference is huge!
Gajendra
April 18, 2020
Have you ever been to Indian continent? You are getting fed by media. Please do not discuss what you do not know. Recent laws passed have been proposed for long time. Also Zina asked for Pakistan for Muslims so they to have stay there and only minorities driven out by jihadi government and military of Pakistan are to be accepted and given citizenship. What is wrong with it. We go every year there and do some charity work without any reservation. One of our close friend is Muslim and he act like one of the family member, it is not problem in India. It is problem in Pakistan which is supported by US $. Open your eyes and see how many came to protest versus how many Asian origin people live in this are, very small. Do not get drag into this stupid propaganda.
SarahDC
April 18, 2020
Obviously you haven't taken the time to read the article I included in my original comment. Furthermore, your anecdotal response does nothing to respond to the human rights crisis happening in India regarding the caste and Muslim genocide. Countries around the world have called it out, this is not a personal opinion. It seems like you're the one brainwashed by propaganda which is ironic and unfortunately a reality for many who hold your position. Good luck!
Patriot
April 26, 2020
Only an ignorant / low IQ individual can make such a comment. Learn India's glorious history and current events before posting dumb comments here.
Ketki
July 20, 2019
I am very happy to read this article . So true , when we come to America, we missed our food and our people . I am in NY. When i missed my people i always go to patel brothers in Hickswill , and hillside store . To talk with girls who works there . I fill so good . They all Gujarati girls , with very affection they talk and i fill very good and comfort.
Thanks to Mafatbhai and their family , to open the store in USA .
Thanks to Mafatbhai and their family , to open the store in USA .
Urvashi P.
October 2, 2017
I really enjoyed reading this article. I came to this country when I was 20 so I don't always appreciate what children go through growing up here. My kids were exposed to a very varied diet, of which Indian food was just one component. But I appreciate that is not always the case. Our family very much enjoys its trips to Patel Brothers, and I always come back laden with too many groceries and a head buzzing with ideas for all the recipes I intend to create. Thank you for this thought-provoking and informative article.
David
September 11, 2017
I have been following these guys for quite a while! When i was looking for my local indian grocery store on htttp://www.aapnabusiness.com they would pop up just about everywhere! Great to see that they have done so well! :)
WoooPigSooie
August 15, 2017
What a great story! I have lived in Chicago for 10 years, visiting Patel Brothers routinely for Indian groceries. I had no idea the story behind the chain -- or that my store on Devon was the original store!
Windischgirl
August 9, 2017
Recently found the PB here in Philadelphia...what a revelation! I had to resist the temptation to load my car with pulses, rice, atta, and produce (full pantry right now). Prices are reasonable. Delighted to find asafoetida and poppadums. Bringing friends next time to share in the wonders. Thanks for the article--I would have never learned about PB on my own.
BabaLou C.
July 20, 2017
I did not know how to cook in India. I started shopping at Patel Brothers in 1979 in Chicago. In 1982 I opened a restaurant Gourmet Chicken and Chef Luciano. American and Italian foods infused with Indian Spices. Cooked over 4 Million Meals and may I say thanks to Patel Brothers. Proud to say to this day that I shop at Patel Brothers.
Viral M.
June 13, 2017
When any new immigrant coming from India (Specially from Gujarat)and searching for place to settle down in new suburb, town, city, state or even country other than India, He/she will look for distance from Patel Brothers to his/her new home/neighborhood.
Nance
June 2, 2017
The author alludes to the shame (or fear?) of being seen as "the other" by his choice of foods. This is a sad commentary about the lack of curiosity or inclusivity by students in the dominant culture. As a white girl in school with many Chinese students who brought lunches of rice mixtures wrapped in banana leaves and tied with string, I was curious but felt no desire to tease them for their different foods. I'd hope children these days would be more open-minded about other cultures.
Panfusine
June 3, 2017
It was an issue even when I was growing up in India, there was always a reluctance for some of us to take the uber traditional fare that got packed into the lunch boxes, esp. the ones with a potential to make a mess (automatically brings to mind many dishes with rice which were mixed with liquid gravies, ) and the cool foods somehow always involved sandwiches and more 'stylish' fare. It may just have intensified in a new country.
Barb
June 2, 2017
I've been shopping at my local branch for years, thanks for the back story, I had no idea.
Carmas
June 2, 2017
My wife and I discovered Patel Bros a few years ago, in a suburb of Dallas. Growing up in Los Angeles and routinely visiting local, ethnic (Hispanic), grocery store's was part of my youth. To walk into Patel Bros was such a treat for all the senses, to be sure. The story "rounded out' the rest of the experience, as it's become such a guilty pleasure to walk the aisles from Produce to frozen pakora's, to fresh-made naan. Many thanks!
ccsinclair
June 2, 2017
Thanks for the back story on Patel Brothers. Louisville's outpost is cannily located next door to one of the best Indian restaurants in town, Shalimar, making it irresistible to drop in after a meal to pick up ingredients or snacks. It's like walking into an alternate universe, where all the flavors have been dialed up to 11--and the deals on produce can't be beat.
Spud G.
June 2, 2017
This is a good story about the contributions of well-educated immigrants. It's good to understand what it's like to be in someone else's shoes. However, the tone in the section on Skokie seemed overly negative. Perhaps that wasn't how it was meant.
Rebecca W.
June 2, 2017
Thank you for this amazing in depth story about the Patel history, I'm so grateful! I've been leading food tours on Devon Avenue for many years so this is particularly interesting to me.
Nancy H.
June 2, 2017
I shop at Patel Bros. all the time up on Devon Ave. here in Chicago. Devon itself is a hub of activity for all kinds of immigrants to the US. From South Asians of all stripes, to Southeast Asians, Orthodox Jews, Russians even a Georgian bakery making khatchapouri. It is a true cook's delight.
The residents, visitors and businesses on Devon capture the very finest attributes of America where we welcome immigrants and immigrants in turn expand and enrich all of us. Everyone gets along even if they don't always in their homelands. And yes I think of this every time I shop for my amchoor powder, curry leaf, black salt and marvelous Indian desserts.
The residents, visitors and businesses on Devon capture the very finest attributes of America where we welcome immigrants and immigrants in turn expand and enrich all of us. Everyone gets along even if they don't always in their homelands. And yes I think of this every time I shop for my amchoor powder, curry leaf, black salt and marvelous Indian desserts.
Martha P.
June 2, 2017
As a child in the 50's in Dallas, I loved Chinese food. In 1963 my dad gave me a Chinese cookbook and a Chinese cleaver. I was determined to cook a great, multi-dish banquet for my family that summer but couldn't find the ingredients at the local A&P so I called the food editor of the local newspaper and was told there was only one oriental grocery in town. My mom and I went and what a revelation!.. The aromas and sights transported me to a different world, likely not China but certainly not Dallas either. There are now many oriental markets in Dallas along with Indian, Middle Eastern and African that I frequent. I have always been an adventurous eater but if I were to find myself in a foreign country for years I should miss BBQ brisket and other foods from my childhood. But what a wonderful world it is that we are able to expand our palates here at home.
susan G.
May 29, 2017
Italian/garlic; Eastern European/cabbage... many cultural pitfalls for immigrants who want to be Americanized come from the food and the smells of the food. I see this in my Jewish family, and I see that foods like bagels and sour cream, which seem totally American now, had an uphill period of integrating into the mainstream.
I see a variant of this in my family: we moved to a small town in New England to buy a natural food store. The kids all worked in the store with my husband and me, and learned to want foods that we would not bring into our house. However, they loved Japanese seaweed snacks (which we sold), but offended their classmates when they ate them with their school lunch (and the kids didn't let that stop them).
In the 1970's we lived in the DC area, a fortunately multi-cultural environment where we shopped in Indian markets, as well as Japanese and more. From our move, the 1980's on meant that we had to bring at least some of those foods onto the shelves of our own store, even asafoetida.
I see a variant of this in my family: we moved to a small town in New England to buy a natural food store. The kids all worked in the store with my husband and me, and learned to want foods that we would not bring into our house. However, they loved Japanese seaweed snacks (which we sold), but offended their classmates when they ate them with their school lunch (and the kids didn't let that stop them).
In the 1970's we lived in the DC area, a fortunately multi-cultural environment where we shopped in Indian markets, as well as Japanese and more. From our move, the 1980's on meant that we had to bring at least some of those foods onto the shelves of our own store, even asafoetida.
Laynas M.
May 27, 2017
20 years in the USA never set foot in the PB a few miles away. It is a big world and tasting the mind boggling variety of food is natural. Sorry for those who never immigrated in their souls.
Panfusine
May 29, 2017
Sorry to hear that you had such a horrid experience with your native Indian food growing up Supratim Sanyal, that 20 years later you still avoid it.
Laynas M.
May 31, 2017
Interesting conclusion, though I crave from mangsho-bhaat and tangra-style sweet&sour chicken - not options at PB :) The point I was trying to make is the founding Patel seems to have no will to experiment with the mind-boggling variety of food in the huge melting pot that is America, which is probably true for some part of PB customers. There is no conflict with my "native" food and the paleo-diet I am experimenting with currently.
Panfusine
May 31, 2017
Not nearly as interesting as your assumption that folks who frequent PB somehow never ever venture out of their 'comfort zone' and that they're unaware of the variety of cuisines available on this side of the Atlantic !
Laynas M.
June 1, 2017
Could be a stupid assumption, yes. Need data - maybe you or I could do a pseudo-scientific survey - ask 50 people coming out of PB how many times they have tried non-Gujarati food in the last year ...
Laynas M.
June 1, 2017
Just to be clear, the "tried" should be qualified with "volunteery", i.e. Decided to see what other food was like even though an Indian restaurant was open in a four-mile radius. I suspect your guess to the results of such a survey will not be too far off my assumption :)
Amba
June 4, 2017
Laynas Mitarpus, your comment shows how little you know about Americans of Indian descent in this country. Most people I know who shop at Patel Bros. also shop at their neighborhood grocery store. Many Indians in India have been exposed to international cuisines and enjoy them. First and second generation Americans of Indian descent grew up eating varied ethnic cuisines such as Italian, Mexican, Chinese, Korean and others. Just because they stop by Patel brothers to pick up samosas and other food stuff doesn't mean they don't appreciate a varied diet.
Laynas M.
June 5, 2017
Thanks Amba, you are probably right. It is easy to get misleaden by casual observation of, for example, the Niagara Falls (US) on any summer weekend.
Gajendra
October 4, 2017
Not only we know other food, we consumed other cuisine on regular basis. We do not have problem finding other varieties of food even though we are vegetarian. It all depends, PB is not sole supplier of our diet.
Ashwin
May 27, 2017
Great recording of our history in USA. We made trips from Syracuse - upstate NY - to NYC's Kalyustian (only store to carry Indian spices and lentils) for Indian groceries in late sixties. Round trip about 700 miles.
Donamaya
January 7, 2021
Hi Ashwin- Thank you for supporting Kalustyan’s all those years ago. I’ve been the manager for 7 years and I can’t tell you how many people have come in saying in the 60’s/ 70’s they were students here from India. They would drive their station wagons to the city, meeting friends from Boston, Philly and DC, and load up on Dals, Rice, spices,etc. as Kalustyan’s was the first and for many decades the only place in the U.S. to buy Indian Groceries. We are now in our 77th year and carry products from 80 countries. This neighborhood, now called Curry Hill, was ‘originally’ an Armenian neighborhood and Mr.K Kalustyan was a Turkish Armenian spice trader. He started importing other products from India with his spices- being the first to do so. We work with the chef at the Pierre Hotel that told us when he was looking thru the menu archives he found that in 1948 they had an Indian restaurant! Surely purchasing from Kalustyan’s!
Patel Brothers is a fascinating story as well!!
Patel Brothers is a fascinating story as well!!
Sanjiv S.
May 26, 2017
What a great story. Patel Brothers were definitely the pioneers. When I moved to the US in the early 90s - Indian stores were well established in the major metros but were still relatively basic in their offerings. Here in Dallas, we had Taj Grocers that really ruled the roost. Now we have some that are so large that they have taken over traditional American grocery store locations. My wife grew up in the US and I grew up in India. Her experience is similar to the author's in that she had to keep her Indian-ness in check growing up. Our kids on the other hand, don't think twice about taking Indian food to lunch or expressing their love for Parle G, Bourbon(biscuits), Cholle Bhature or Samosas to all their friends - any color. BTW - Bourbon Biscuits have sugar, not salt on them.
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