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A Super-Simple Vietnamese Pantry Dinner—for Chicken, Tofu, Whatever You've Got
This week’s Genius Recipe streamlines a foundational technique called kho, which produces a powerful, umami-packed sauce.
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Karolina P.
February 15, 2021
This dish was delicious and very adaptable. I didn't have brown sugar so I made caramel out of white sugar. I also didn't have shallots so I left them out. Great dish that you can whip up quickly with the ingredients you have and better than the sum of it's parts. Will be this making again! Thank you for sharing!
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March 28, 2020
Is there a sub for rice vinegar? Thank you!!!
Kristen M.
March 28, 2020
Another vinegar would be just fine here—something in the white wine family, or cider vinegar would work well. The other flavors are much stronger, so the subtleties of the vinegar aren't too important.
Maria
March 21, 2020
Another question on the fish sauce, can miso be substituted? I've got both red and white, and have been experimenting with them lately, since it's a new ingredient for me. Thanks!
Trying to keep safe in Atlanta, praying for NYC (my daughter lives there) and all our neighbors across the world! 🌎
Trying to keep safe in Atlanta, praying for NYC (my daughter lives there) and all our neighbors across the world! 🌎
Chau K.
March 21, 2020
I’ve never tried it with miso, but I think it would be quite nice. This is a dish we’ve cooked for decades, and it’s very tolerant of adaptation. I would take a tablespoon of miso and add twice as much water to make a thickish paste. Best of luck in cooking and for your family through this!
Kristen M.
March 21, 2020
Thank you, Chau—great call! Maria, please let us know how it goes. One great thing about this method is that you have a couple chances to taste and adjust, which makes it much easier to get something you really like by the end. I think I'd go for red miso here, which is saltier and more flavorful.
sassygirl711
March 23, 2020
i like umami sauce in place of fish sauce,
as well as vegan fysh sauce (green label). it’s great!
as well as vegan fysh sauce (green label). it’s great!
Rosalind P.
March 19, 2020
asking again -- hope someone sees and answers: If using tofu, is the process exactly the same?
Kristen M.
March 19, 2020
Yes, if you're using firm or extra-firm tofu, but if you have silken, you'll want to just warm it in the sauce without stirring too much or it will break down a lot. Thank you for your patience, Rosalind.
Brown C.
March 19, 2020
I would follow the same process. Be sure to use firm tofu, cut into bite-sized cubes. Optional step - I like to panfry tofu cubes in a bit of oil to give them a "skin"; this helps to keep them intact when stirfrying later.
For added texture, l would toss in some firm veggies, eg. sliced carrots, broccoli or cauliflower florets, say a minute or two after adding the sauce.
For added texture, l would toss in some firm veggies, eg. sliced carrots, broccoli or cauliflower florets, say a minute or two after adding the sauce.
Rosalind P.
March 19, 2020
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Kristen M.
March 19, 2020
This is so nice to hear, Rosalind—I'm so glad we can be helpful, especially right now. (And I've never appreciated our community helping each other out more—thanks Brown Cow for weighing in!)
Cooking D.
March 19, 2020
What do you think about adding a splash of toasted sesame oil to this sauce after cooking it?
Angelia M.
March 18, 2020
What can be substituted for fish sauce? I have seafood allergy and can’t have it but this recipe sounds interesting and would like to try it.
Kristen M.
March 19, 2020
See the article above (point 1) on my notes about subbing soy sauces (tamari counts) and liquid aminos for fish sauce—most important thing is to add the sauce in a small amount at first and adjust to your taste!
Roshni B.
March 18, 2020
Can I use vegetable oil instead of fish oil?
Kristen M.
March 19, 2020
Absolutely -- any onion-like thing can work for the shallot (any onion, scallion, more garlic even). And there's no fish oil, but if you're looking for a fish sauce substitute, see above on my notes about soy sauces (tamari counts) and liquid aminos. Vegetable oil (or any neutral oil) is a great sub for canola oil if that's what you were wondering.
Roshni B.
March 29, 2020
Oops I meant sauce! I apologize. I was looking for a substitute for fish sauce.
Betty S.
March 18, 2020
I have only chicken breast in my freezer. Would this work if I thaw and slice it?
Kristen M.
March 18, 2020
It will indeed—you might just want to watch a little more closely to not overcook it, but even if you do, this sauce cures all.
Ellen
March 18, 2020
I have everything but the Thai Chiles (fresh or dried) but have different chili sauces or pastes. What can I use to substitute? Thx!
Kristen M.
March 18, 2020
Oh, you're in great shape then! Honestly, anything that will add a little heat would work (I've done both fresh jalapeños and dried chiles—both were good), but to be closest go for something that won't bring too much of its own extra competing flavors besides heat.
Florence N.
March 18, 2020
Hi, what are good veggie side dishes to go with this chicken dish? Link to the recipe, please :)
Kristen M.
March 18, 2020
I would do something light and green—a smashed cucumber salad like this; https://food52.com/recipes/18419-jeffrey-alford-naomi-duguid-s-spicy-cucumber-salad Or some stir-fried greens like this (minus the squid): https://food52.com/recipes/11568-quick-wok-fired-squid-with-greens
M.B.
March 18, 2020
So I grabbed a Savoy cabbage in my shopping stock up, do you think cabbage and black beans would work in this - luckily I have fresh ginger and most of the other ingredients including fish sauce.
Kristen M.
March 18, 2020
Sure! I think both the cabbage and the beans would drink up more of the sauce more quickly than a denser protein like chicken or tofu, so I'd start with not too much sauce and cook it not very long before tasting.
M.B.
March 18, 2020
Thanks, I’ll give it a go! And hey, thanks for all the amazing community you and your colleagues create at Food52, my wife and I turn to you guys regularly for inspiration.
Linda
March 18, 2020
I made the sauce, adding the minced garlic and simmering. I used scallops and brown rice noodles. I finished the noodles in the sauce with the scallops. No cilantro so I sliced scallions instead. Delicious!
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