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donnaZ
January 8, 2024
Dear Ella Quittner,
Just discovered you and I absolutely love all of the scientific food preparation testing and reporting you provide. Thank you! I of course like many others have my own tried and tested methods and as someone who likes to cook, helps me decide the best way to prepare a scrumptious dish I am creating. None the less your reports inspire me to taste test other preparation methods. Would love for you to test vegan cheese and sauce recipes and help develop a tangy sharp cheddar.
Just discovered you and I absolutely love all of the scientific food preparation testing and reporting you provide. Thank you! I of course like many others have my own tried and tested methods and as someone who likes to cook, helps me decide the best way to prepare a scrumptious dish I am creating. None the less your reports inspire me to taste test other preparation methods. Would love for you to test vegan cheese and sauce recipes and help develop a tangy sharp cheddar.
Genovessa 4.
May 26, 2021
Hi food52, Thank you so much for the information about making pesto with an imersionblender. I am an American who married an Italian 55 years ago and has lived in Italy since then. I have made pesto many times but was never happy with the results. I even tried buying it. Ugh! Now, thanks to you, I have found the way. Great reading about all of your research.
gailan
September 13, 2020
I tried the immersion blender method and can confirm this is a sure way to break your immersion blender. Mine is currently putting out smoke from the interior despite a prolonged rest in the freezer. I had a newish Cuisinart.
Mathieu G.
July 18, 2020
Not sure if this was mentioned before but don't wash your basil leaves too much (like under tap water)! Use some slightly wet paper towel to clean the leaves.
scoot87501
July 18, 2020
This is way over thinking pesto. I have been making it for 30 years and I couldn't tell you where I got the recipe. I do make it in the food processor and it is delicious!
Rick G.
July 17, 2020
I’ve been making and developing my pesto for over 25 years. I’ve always used a blender but I can imagine using a mortar and pestle would be excellent also. I’ve tried different nuts - cashews, pistachios, walnuts. I’ve tried toasting pinenuts I’ve tried different basil’s but the best is with sweet basil and pinenuts raw. I have recently changed from a strong Parmesan to a gran padano which doesn’t overwhelm the flavor like a Parmesan like Reggiano does. My recipe is based on weight and as long as I mostly dry the basil leaves it’s a pretty consistent and reliable method. Be very picky about your basil leaves and try not to use any stems and certainly not any of the flowers or the preflowering buds. I tried to use the lowest setting on the blender at all times and I start with the basil leaves, a generous amount of olive oil and salt. Then I add the garlic and the cheese and lastly the pinenuts and I try not to blend them very much because I like the chunkiness of various sizes of pine it pieces. I don’t like the flavor of overly blended basil leaves because it changes into some vegetal flavors which I don’t appreciate in this sauce I find that you can be overly generous with olive oil which will reduce oxidation when your pesto is being stored and you can just drain off excess without losing very much of the flavor. If your pesto includes cheese then you must be very careful about warming it up before you put it on hot pasta or gnocchi. My recipe is based on 100 g of basil leaves and if I harvest 180 g of basil leaves I just adjust the rest of the ingredients. And finally if anyone is interested in my recipe I’d be glad to share with them just send me an email at [email protected]
OldGrayMare
July 17, 2020
This has nothing to do with HOW to make pesto, but in summer, I love making one with fresh dill....put on plain canned chickpeas. Think found recipe from Food52...whatever, its like the smell of fresh mown grass!!
Gigia K.
July 10, 2020
None of these methods are the one I learned as a small child, where I grew up eating pesto as taught to me by my mother’s family who settled in San Francisco from Liguria.
The most important difference, the cheese does not belong in the pesto! Pest is made of just basil, garlic, olive oil and salt. The best way I have found to make it besides the mortar and pestle is in a VitaMix because it breaks down the plants cell walls and makes one smooth flavor out of the ingredients.
The cheese and/or nuts are added into the pasta with a splash of hot boiling water at the end. Otherwise the cheese may melt into globs and the pesto will not coat the pasta smoothly.
I have been making pesto this way for 50 years and it is the best pesto by far with a truly fresh basil flavor. Other options are to add 1 tablespoon of lemon juice so that the basil stays a bright green.
You should try again with this method!!
The most important difference, the cheese does not belong in the pesto! Pest is made of just basil, garlic, olive oil and salt. The best way I have found to make it besides the mortar and pestle is in a VitaMix because it breaks down the plants cell walls and makes one smooth flavor out of the ingredients.
The cheese and/or nuts are added into the pasta with a splash of hot boiling water at the end. Otherwise the cheese may melt into globs and the pesto will not coat the pasta smoothly.
I have been making pesto this way for 50 years and it is the best pesto by far with a truly fresh basil flavor. Other options are to add 1 tablespoon of lemon juice so that the basil stays a bright green.
You should try again with this method!!
Linda B.
July 10, 2020
Absolutely agree on the lemon juice. Green pesto is much more beautiful than brown.
Do you leave the pine nuts whole?
Do you leave the pine nuts whole?
Gigia K.
July 10, 2020
I roughly chop them and then add them in when I add the cheese. Sometimes substitute walnuts for pine nuts. When we were little and Italian Food wasn’t trendy we had to use walnuts and Dry Monterrey Jack cheese.
Gigia K.
July 10, 2020
Another thing about using a blender. It can have a great texture, but has to be done in a specific way. Start with the garlic, lemon juice, olive oil and salt and a small amount of basil leaves. Get a loose paste going first, then slowly add more leaves. If it gets too thick again, then add more oil. Don’t blend too long or the basil will get hot and turn brown.
Lois R.
July 5, 2020
Basil is incredibly easy to grow! I live in an apartment and set pots underneath a grow light. You can order seeds for many varieties, including Genoese basil. While basil is happiest growing outdoors in bright sun, it grows well if a bit more slowly indoors.
Susan D.
July 5, 2020
Just one question, please...
I found this Pesto article via a link in an email from Food52 dated 7-3-2020.
The problem/question is that the email says this is a link to "The Absolute Best Way to Make Pasta Dough, According to So Many Tests".
Pasta Dough -- Not Pesto!!
Not only did I read most of the entire page but, as a backup, I did a search for the words "Pasta Dough" on this page. They were nowhere to be found!!
Where is the article about making Pasta Dough?? Does one exist?
I've made homemade pasta many times but, I received a new pasta maker as a gift recently, which I'm really looking forward to trying out! So I was hoping to find info here about making Pasta Dough, not Pesto!
Any help will be greatly appreciated! And if you have a link to the correct page for making Pasta Dough, I would appreciate that even more!!
Thank you!
I found this Pesto article via a link in an email from Food52 dated 7-3-2020.
The problem/question is that the email says this is a link to "The Absolute Best Way to Make Pasta Dough, According to So Many Tests".
Pasta Dough -- Not Pesto!!
Not only did I read most of the entire page but, as a backup, I did a search for the words "Pasta Dough" on this page. They were nowhere to be found!!
Where is the article about making Pasta Dough?? Does one exist?
I've made homemade pasta many times but, I received a new pasta maker as a gift recently, which I'm really looking forward to trying out! So I was hoping to find info here about making Pasta Dough, not Pesto!
Any help will be greatly appreciated! And if you have a link to the correct page for making Pasta Dough, I would appreciate that even more!!
Thank you!
Joyce
July 5, 2020
I thought I had mis-read it! It does say pasta! Here’s a link to a pasta recipe from this site... https://food52.com/recipes/83340-semolina-pasta-dough-recipe
Susan D.
July 5, 2020
Thank you so much, Joyce!
Very much appreciated!
I was actually horrified when I landed on this page! While I love using fresh basil, I really don't like pesto, nor does my very-Italian husband!
Perhaps that's a bit odd considering neither of us are picky eaters but, we will always prefer a hearty tomato sauce or alfredo over pesto any day!
Thanks again for the link! There is some good info on that page.
Very much appreciated!
I was actually horrified when I landed on this page! While I love using fresh basil, I really don't like pesto, nor does my very-Italian husband!
Perhaps that's a bit odd considering neither of us are picky eaters but, we will always prefer a hearty tomato sauce or alfredo over pesto any day!
Thanks again for the link! There is some good info on that page.
Diana M.
July 3, 2020
I grow 5-6 basil plants in a planter on my balcony every summer, and harvest the leaves 2 or 3 times over the season. I freeze the pesto in those wee little glass canning jars (4 oz., I think). They make lovely gifts. As for measuring the fresh basil, I pile as many leaves as I can into a 2-cup measure, pushing down a bit. When I release my hand, it tends to pop back up, and some leaves fall out. Anything that stays in the measure goes in that batch. Close enough!
Smaug
July 4, 2020
I usually just grab a handful, and decide how much I'm going to use after I chop it, or whatever's ready to cut if I'm going to freeze it. However, if you're going to do a side by side test of a made dish, you need considerable more uniformity of ingredients. I usually do 3 or 4 crops during the summer- it's very easy from seed, the seeds are cheap, and the flavor is so much better with young plants.
Helen S.
July 3, 2020
The primary reason the food processor didn't mince well was a dull blade. Most people never buy a new S blade for the processor producing poor results. If you mince the basil (with a sharp blade) first, then add everything but the oil. Add only enough oil to bind it together. At 120 calories a tablespoon, you don't have to add 600 calories to it.
Linda B.
July 3, 2020
If I am planning on consuming all of the pesto I make I add the cheese but if I'm planning on freezing some I omit the cheese, add enough oil to thoroughly coat all of the basil, garlic, pine nut mixture and freeze in small containers or ice cube trays. I then add the cheese and the rest of the oil once the frozen mixture has thawed. I do it this way because I find the taste of the frozen and then thawed parmesan to be rather unpleasant and stale. Cheese does not freeze well in my experience.
I make massive quantities of this mixture during the summer so that on a winter's night when I am craving pesto I have lots on hand. It's not as good as fresh but it is good enough to satisfy this pesto fan when there is no fresh basil to be found.
I make massive quantities of this mixture during the summer so that on a winter's night when I am craving pesto I have lots on hand. It's not as good as fresh but it is good enough to satisfy this pesto fan when there is no fresh basil to be found.
Maria K.
July 2, 2020
I find that pecans produce an excellent pesto, very close to pine nuts and much superior to walnuts.
Stephanie G.
July 4, 2020
Yes! I use pecans exclusively now too. They are cheaper and I always have them on hand.
Mathieu G.
July 18, 2020
Sunflower seeds are also a cheaper alternative and are really giving a nice twist!
Stephanie G.
July 2, 2020
I use the hand chopping method. It's the way I learned from Deborah Madison's Vegetarian Cooking for Everyone.
Maurizio L.
July 2, 2020
This wonderful post finally pushed me to order that Italian mortar and pestle I've been coveting for years -- just like my nonna's from Carrara. Excited to give it a try once it arrives!
pgarratt
July 5, 2020
As a pharmacist married to a chemist I have a small collection of mortars and pestles which are priceless tools in my kitchen. I have a smallish marble one which is great but has too little space to get great emulsification. My go to is a granite mortar and pestle dragged home in my back pack from Vancouver Island to Ontario. It’s surface never stains nor takes up flavours that might effect the next product. It also has a rough enough surface to make the process really easy. It is heavy and indestructible... so far! Much less permeable than marble and perhaps less pretty than marble! Mortars and pestles are the best !
gandalf
July 7, 2020
Did you order your granite mortar and pestle when you got it, or get it in a store? Do you know the brand/manufacturer?
pgarratt
July 7, 2020
Met an artist working with his family. They beachcombed the granite and turned them into table top candle hold mortars and pestles. Etc. I will look for contact information and post it. Pam
pgarratt
July 8, 2020
There is one available from Williams Food Equipment called Fresco granite sloped front which I have as my go to mortar and pestle in my kitchen. Rough enough surface but cleans well. Pam
Holly H.
July 2, 2020
Love to read about pesto and happy to see your comparisons. I want to comment on pine nuts as it is an essential ingredient. Some people may have a reaction, commonly called “pine mouth” which is most unpleasant and I’d hate to think one might blame it on the basil or spoiled olive oil. The most common pine nut sold in the US is from China and it is thought that the particular pine tree species in China causes the malady. There are alternatives tho not as readily available but it is worth the search (and price). Google New Mexico pine nuts for a source to purchase. They are truly excellent, far superior to those from China in appearance and flavor/texture. There are also Italian/Mediterranean pine nuts which are an alternative to Chinese. This is no slander of items of Chinese origin (so many delicacies and objects). It’s just that in the case of pine nuts, in my opinion, there is a superior alternative.
Smaug
July 2, 2020
The basil would seem to me to have some inherent problems for a comparison test. For one thing, measuring leaves by volume is pretty hopeless, and weight is no better since the moisture content (and possibly the leaf to stem ratio) can vary so much. For another, the internal chemistry and flavor of basil changes rather radically as it enters and progresses through the flowering process, and commercially available basil has almost always at least begun to bolt.
Stevie T.
July 4, 2020
Question: My Cuisinart immersion blender came with a 500mL/2 cup plastic vessel abou the size and shape of mason jar. Is there any chance that it will impart a plastic taste to the pesto. (I'd likely be freezing the pesto right away.)
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