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Lisa P.
January 6, 2021
I bought three Le Creuset pots about 8 years ago - a 2 quart French oven; a 4-quart French oven; and a 10 1/4" skillet. I've used the first one multiple times per day and the other two nearly every day since then.
The 4-quart pan had some peeling of the enamel after about five years and Le Creuset sent me a brand-new one for free. The others have a good bit of burned-on food (due to my carelessness) but otherwise have held up great.
I have a couple of Lodge regular cast iron pans (I especially like their new pie pan), but for something that is going to be used daily, it's just too much trouble, in my opinion. I want to be able to wash things and not worry about it. And I don't like the idea of cooking things like tomato sauce in cast iron, because I don't feel like I need to take the chance of getting extra iron in my diet.
More recently I have come to the conclusion that I am not crazy about the light interior of the Le Creuset pots, especially for things like braisers that I may want to use on top of the stove for sauteeing. That's not really meant for high-heat cooking and tends to burn more than I would like. Staub with the dark interiors seems better.
But the Le Creuset pan with the dark interior has performed like a champ and we're getting to the point now where the cost has been only pennies per day. So I think it has been worth it.
The 4-quart pan had some peeling of the enamel after about five years and Le Creuset sent me a brand-new one for free. The others have a good bit of burned-on food (due to my carelessness) but otherwise have held up great.
I have a couple of Lodge regular cast iron pans (I especially like their new pie pan), but for something that is going to be used daily, it's just too much trouble, in my opinion. I want to be able to wash things and not worry about it. And I don't like the idea of cooking things like tomato sauce in cast iron, because I don't feel like I need to take the chance of getting extra iron in my diet.
More recently I have come to the conclusion that I am not crazy about the light interior of the Le Creuset pots, especially for things like braisers that I may want to use on top of the stove for sauteeing. That's not really meant for high-heat cooking and tends to burn more than I would like. Staub with the dark interiors seems better.
But the Le Creuset pan with the dark interior has performed like a champ and we're getting to the point now where the cost has been only pennies per day. So I think it has been worth it.
jamcgoo
September 13, 2020
I treasure my Griswold cast iron skillets. I found them well used and nicely seasoned at a yard sale in NewHampshire about 30 years ago. I think they were made in the 1930s. I have a #6 about 10”, a #8 about 12” I use them for Crispy potatoes, steaks, enchiladas, upside down cakes, Irish soda bread and almost anything else you can think of. I have small wrists and appreciate that they are not too heavy I have seen reconditioned ones in antique stores here in Oregon.
mamacita
October 26, 2022
I second getting cast iron second hand! I find the new Lodge I bought to be so heavy and cumbersome compared to the well loved and oft used ones I have inherited. I too, use mine fo everything from cakes to "tray" bakes. As for care -- I have never, ever in 50 years of cooking (I started very young :)) worried about seasoning, (tho I probably simmered some neutral oil in the Lodge when I first got it) rust, not using soap, (Why not? Wives tale to me)special chainmail scrubbers or anything of the sort. If there's rust, I just wipe it out with some oil and a towel. No biggy.
dwethered
May 17, 2020
As a 50+ single guy, I came a bit later than many to the food game. I always knew how to do the basics but didn't pay much attention to the particular tool until I hit my early 30s. My first purchase was also a cast iron skillet. I chose a Lodge unseasoned skillet from the local megamart. I asked around to learn how to season it properly. We've been best friends ever since. Even though I can afford Le Creuset or other pricey brands, I've never seen the point. After 20+ years we have had our fights but nothing a little elbow grease and a new season didn't patch up. It also taught me an important lesson. If one chooses wisely, one doesn't have to choose between quality and price. Also, now all my foodie friends (it took me almost 20 years to admit I was one of those too) who often have the fancy brands still ooh and ahh over my black beauty that never leaves the cooktop. It has been joined by a Dutch oven that was salvaged from an old barn (manufacturer and age unknown) and a Lodge griddle. The patina and seasoning has made each as slick and smooth as friends' enameled ware, and I do simmer chili, stews, and sauces without a care and cook perfectly seared trout with crispy skin. Plus you can spend the difference in price on a nice wine or whiskey to accompany the first of many wonderful meals you create.
sboulton
May 17, 2020
You're correct on all counts. There is a possibility you can find out who made your dutch oven and how old it is. On the underside of the bottom of the pan, manufacturers would mark the name of the company and a code number which will tell you what year it was made. You might have to do some heavy cleaning to get down to it if it's very old. I did it with my three pans and found they were Wagner pans. Two were made in the 1880's and one was 1900. My 12 inch is still perfect even though it is 140 years old.
MaryMary
April 27, 2019
May suggest a trip to the Northeast (Lancaster County, PA. is a good bet) and do a treasure hunt of antique shops? Mine (made in 1865 in Germany) came from Maryland brought to USA by my great grandparents. Have found over my 70 years that there is just no substitute for the real thing.
May
September 24, 2016
I, too, have been pleasantly surprised with my Paderno pans - top-of-their-line, canadian-made stainless, and when pre-heated properly they combine the best of both cast iron and non-stick pan's quality. So - they're non-stick, keep their temperature, heat evenly, clean up with ease after, and 0 rust!
May
September 24, 2016
I, too, have been pleasantly surprised with my Paderno pans - top-of-their-line, canadian-made stainless, and when pre-heated properly they combine the best of both cast iron and non-stick pan's quality. So - they're non-stick, keep their temperature, heat evenly, clean up with ease after, and 0 rust!
GregoryBPortland
September 24, 2016
As someone who has old Griswold and Wagner cast iron, I agree with josefernandez about the quality of these pans, however, sources that I respect like Lodge pans a great deal, and I've often seen them praised on America's Test Kitchen in their equipment segments. Apparently you can get a very good non-stick finish from these pans. So I'm not yet ready to write them off. I've also got an update on my thread about carbon steel. I have since come to really like my Paderno pan. Despite it's light weight, I've been able to develop a beautiful non-stick finish to this little pan. If I control the heat, the pan does the rest. I also invested in a 10 1/4" Matfer Bourgeat saute pan and this has turned out to be my favorite of the three I own. This terrific pan developed its non-stick surface quickly and has been turning out sautes, eggs, and other quick-fry chores without losing it's silky surface. I also like the fact that there are no rivets on the inside of the pan, and the handle is better designed than the de Buyer pans for use inside the oven. I'm still using my beloved cast iron, but the addition of carbon steel has enhanced my cooking (perfect for pan searing a steak and finishing it in the oven)!
josefernandez
September 22, 2016
If you can find one, get the 100 year old Griswold or Wagner...basically anything before WWI is good. Put a 100 year old Griswold and a modern Lodge side by side and you'll see a huge difference.
If you can't pass the idea of using a 100 year old cookware (many do) and want something more modern, consider an Iwachu cast iron pan http://amzn.to/2djW1ug . They are from Japan and still do things the old school way, which is why I only use them along with my century old Griswold.
If you can't pass the idea of using a 100 year old cookware (many do) and want something more modern, consider an Iwachu cast iron pan http://amzn.to/2djW1ug . They are from Japan and still do things the old school way, which is why I only use them along with my century old Griswold.
GregoryBPortland
December 7, 2015
Since this conversation is still open, I've bought two carbon steel pans. the first is a nearly 12-inch De Buyer French carbon steel pan. The other is a Paderno, much-lighter-weight carbon steel pan--about 8-inches. The De Buyer is a superb pan with similar non-stick properties as cast iron once it is seasoned. It's heavy--heavy as cast iron. But it is a workhorse, and I'm happy to have it join the rest of my pots and pans. I'm a bit disappointed in the Paderno pan. It's a little too light weight, and it hasn't taken to seasoning as well as the De Buyer pan. I do like the lighter weight, and I'm working on maintaining a seasoned finish. This means, I have to control the heat a little more studiously. But I high recommend the De Buyer pan.
sboulton
December 7, 2015
I have a terrific 6 inch Wusthof flat edge vegetable cleaver that I use a lot, a Global Santoku which is great too, but what I really adore using are the Miyabi chef's and utility knives. Thin carbon steel blades slice thru everything like butter.
Djay
December 7, 2015
I'm going to take a look at your favorites and maybe give some a try. As you clearly know, there is nothing like a good sharp well-balanced knife that does the job well and doesn't injure you in the process because it's badly made.
trehudson
June 9, 2020
I too have a Wustof cleaver (and their Santuko) which I use everyday. I have never tried a carbon steel knife....
Djay
December 7, 2015
Since your original posting was from May 2012, I am curious about what knives you finally settled on. I love a good knife and, after trying dozens, this is my essential list: Wusthof Wave 8" chef's knife, Victorinox wavy edge bread knife and a Dexter 5 1/2" scalloped utility knife which is basically a slim tomato knife, also perfect for slicing small crusty breads, cheese and separating the peels from melon wedges.
[email protected]
January 29, 2015
Well...I have a good bit of cast iron. I love every single pan too. Unfortunately my larger pans are warped and my aunts pans are very crusty. Due to age and rusts I guess. Not comfortable using those. I do have a couple of the very old Erie brand that I feel is superior to others. It is lighter than other pans and super smooth. They are my favorites. I have to say I bought the 12 inch lodge pan at walmart and I am suprised how much I love it now. At first I was very skeptical because the grainy surface but that pan has totally made me change my mind on new cast iron. It is smoothing out just like someone else said. I wanted a large pan and didn't want to pay a fortune. So glad I bought it. As for Caphalon Cast iron I wouldn't have one of those even if paid to take it. They sold out in my book and I won't buy cast iron made in china. Especially when Lodge is cheaper and much better quality than the piece of crap calphalon I looked at. If you cant get Erie griswald or wagner. Get a lodge. If you use it a lot it smooths down. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another!
GregoryBPortland
February 9, 2014
So agree with you about Lodge cast iron. Mediocre--better to look for Wagner Ware or Griswold at flea markets. Far superior. Never heard of Findlay, and will now have to keep an eye out for it. Is Wagner Ware still being made today?
paseo
February 9, 2014
There is a website for American Culinary that sells Wagner. I have bought a round griddle and frying pan in the last few years- both are smooth, seem well cast and say on the reverse that they are made in the USA. I cannot spend time at flea mkts and am not a fan of ebay so this was where I went. I am happy with both. they were easy to season and have worked just like cast iron should.
May
February 9, 2014
If you can find one, an old Findlay cast iron pan has immaculately smooth inner walls, which stay very non-sticky once seasoned. A venerable Canadian company, sadly no more, but their pans live on. They sometimes show up on Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xfindlay+cast+iron&_nkw=findlay+cast+iron&_sacat=0&_from=R40
I loathe my new Lodge cast iron frying pan, because the surface is all bobbly. Yuck. Anyone want it, they can have it for the $ of shipping!
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xfindlay+cast+iron&_nkw=findlay+cast+iron&_sacat=0&_from=R40
I loathe my new Lodge cast iron frying pan, because the surface is all bobbly. Yuck. Anyone want it, they can have it for the $ of shipping!
paseo
February 9, 2014
I am with you on the texture of Lodge - like pavement and it never will get smooth. My new Wagner is smooth (someone left an electric burner on the old, old one and it warped) -
CLG
February 4, 2014
What is the pan in the first picture?
And -- the Pinterest board doesn't seem to be up, or at least the link doesn't work.
Thanks
And -- the Pinterest board doesn't seem to be up, or at least the link doesn't work.
Thanks
Greenstuff
February 4, 2014
There are three pans in the first picture--the red Le Creuset round skillet, the Lodge 10-inch, and a carbon steel.
CLG
February 4, 2014
Thanks, it's the carbon steel I'm interested in. Guess I was looking at the 2nd picture. Brette, I hope you look into (and post about) carbon steel pans too.
GregoryBPortland
January 24, 2014
I've weighed in on this subject already, but one saute pan has me intrigued. The French carbon steel pans have been praised for their durability, heat conduction, and their ability to season over the years so they have a similar smoothness as cast iron. Anyone else have a 10 or 12-inch carbon steel pan with a long handle that wants to comment about their experiences with these French pans, please speak up.
Ginny
February 12, 2014
I think I have a carbon steel pan. A 10" skillet with a long handle. It's made by deBuyer from France. I love it. I got rid of my nonstick pans because I worried about chemicals. The pan is known as a mineral pan. It cooks as well as cast iron, but is thinner and much lighter. As I get older, the cast iron is too heaving to move around. The deBuyer is great. Once it's seasoned, it's nonstick. I just wipe it clean, dry it, and put a little oil on it.
Hanh V.
April 22, 2015
I'm a little late to the conversation, but I too have the deBuyer Mineral B carbon steel pans, 10" & 12". I also converted to these pans to get away from nonstick. The 10" gets used daily for morning omelettes. I absolutely love it. (When cooking eggs on cast iron, heat the pan well before adding the eggs, otherwise it'll stick & be a nightmare to clean.) My only complaint is after baking corn bread the seasoning on the bottom & along lower half of sides were stripped off. Maybe I waited too long to remove the corn bread? When that happened, I used my pan daily for over a year before I baked with it; I'm hesitant to try again. Other than that, they're fantastic. Food cooks great, tastes better & easy to clean.
jackie
January 24, 2014
My husband and his sister have been trying to locate a pan their Mom used....from Italy. It was a hinged, cast iron grill pan the size a chicken breast and veggies could fit into on one side. Maybe like a fritatta pan. Any help would be appreciated!
May
February 9, 2014
Jackie - hopefully you're still watching this discussion, as I just found one (aluminum, though) on Ebay, the fount of all things:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-CLUB-ALUMINUM-OMELET-FISH-PAN-HINGED-CAST-ALUMINUM-/191064767911?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c7c58fda7
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-CLUB-ALUMINUM-OMELET-FISH-PAN-HINGED-CAST-ALUMINUM-/191064767911?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c7c58fda7
carol_tanenbaum
January 19, 2013
I'm not sure how come it took me so long to catch up with this, but for what it's worth, I have my great-great grandmother's cast iron frying pans. She died around 1934, so these pans are most likely 100 yrs old. And still going strong! Used one the other night. Makes great scrambled/fried eggs, or almost anything else you can think of. At this point, they don't need seasoning at all. At most, I rinse them with water, and put them over a hot flame on the stove to dry them -- the same way my mother and grandmother did. Treat your pans with love, cook well in them, and hand them down to many generations to come.
left B.
January 13, 2013
After writing my last note about all of the wonderful cast iron pans in our kitchen I forgot to say that the real workhorse for us is the fairly large Copco enamel lidded pot which we use for soups,
stews, and tomato based dishes like stuffed cabbage. I should also add that the Axford broilers are a must for us, for grilling sausage, toast, fish, etc. I want to repeat how terrific the cast iron loaf pans are for both yeast breads and quick breads. Chad Robertson in his outstanding TARTINE BREAD book describes his use of a dutch oven: a cast iron combo cooker consisting of a shallow frying pan and a deep pan which are used in conjunction with one another, either one serving as the lid for the other. He says that this simulates a professional baker's oven, combining a sealed moist chamber and a strong radiant heat.
stews, and tomato based dishes like stuffed cabbage. I should also add that the Axford broilers are a must for us, for grilling sausage, toast, fish, etc. I want to repeat how terrific the cast iron loaf pans are for both yeast breads and quick breads. Chad Robertson in his outstanding TARTINE BREAD book describes his use of a dutch oven: a cast iron combo cooker consisting of a shallow frying pan and a deep pan which are used in conjunction with one another, either one serving as the lid for the other. He says that this simulates a professional baker's oven, combining a sealed moist chamber and a strong radiant heat.
Eric S.
January 4, 2013
I have 10" and 12" Lodge cast iron skillets that are used constantly. This last Christmas I received a 12" Calphalon tri-ply skillet. the cast iron get used constantly, and lives on my stove top. They may have had a rough texture when I got them, but over the years they've become glassy smooth. Nothing sticks, and I only add a touch of oil or cooking spray. I've been playing the the stainless skillet lately, and I think it all comes down to proper technique: always heat the pan first, add the oil, and cook. The stainless makes it easy to see the fond, and deglazing is a breeze. Also, it's light.
I also have a Lodge enameled 6qt dutch oven, as well as the grill pan and panini press. Mine have the old phenolic resin knobs, but they can be replaced for $7.95 each from Lodge (item # ECSSK). I've had both for a few years now, and while the enamel is a bit stained in the dutch oven, they work perfectly. Of all my pieces, the panini press gets the least use; maybe a few sandwiches a month. I wouldn't part with any of them.
I also have a Lodge enameled 6qt dutch oven, as well as the grill pan and panini press. Mine have the old phenolic resin knobs, but they can be replaced for $7.95 each from Lodge (item # ECSSK). I've had both for a few years now, and while the enamel is a bit stained in the dutch oven, they work perfectly. Of all my pieces, the panini press gets the least use; maybe a few sandwiches a month. I wouldn't part with any of them.
Eric S.
January 4, 2013
I should mention that the replacement knobs are stainless, and are rated to 500F.
GregoryBPortland
January 4, 2013
My old Copco cast iron enamel ware is battered and their white insides have discolored over the years. But I wouldn't get rid of any of the pieces. The chicken fryer is excellent, as is the three-quart pot (makes great chocolate sauce). I have a Le Creuset brasier with a domed lid that makes the silkiest gravies after long braisings. I have three Dutch ovens from Copco, Mario Batali (poor quality enamel, by the way--chips easily), Le Creuset, etc. All are work horses in my kitchen, along with a Batali baking dish, which I think was created for lasagna. I don't have any Lodge ware. My cast iron pans are Griswald (what a beautiful patina these pots and pans have), which have become expensively collectible, and Wagner ware, which is also of excellent quality. A friend of mine recently passed on and I was offered his extensive collection of Griswald pots, pans, corn bread bakers, etc. But I don't' have room anymore but I would have loved cooking in them. I do find myself impatient with people who complain that good cookware is too heavy. They prefer those thin non-stick pans that burn easily. Not for me.
Eric S.
January 4, 2013
I grew up with cast iron. My mom has several pieces that belonged to her great grandmother; her mother wanted new fancy non-stick stuff for herself. I don't think my mom has ever reseasoned those pieces. I don't know where they were made, but I suspect there'll be a knife fight between me and my sisters to see who ends up with them when my mom passes (sometime in the distant future, I hope).
One of my sister's worked at Williams & Sonoma a few years ago, and she and my dad conspired to use her discount to purchase a big set of Le Creuset for my mom as a Christmas gift. She was over the moon, and she uses her stuff daily. There's nothing like quality cookware that has history, durability, and utility.
One of my sister's worked at Williams & Sonoma a few years ago, and she and my dad conspired to use her discount to purchase a big set of Le Creuset for my mom as a Christmas gift. She was over the moon, and she uses her stuff daily. There's nothing like quality cookware that has history, durability, and utility.
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