What's the difference between hosting a "potluck" or charging your "guests" for the privilege of attending?
There is a new party planning site www.zokos.com that allows you to set a price for attending your event and has the invitees pay through PayPal. Is it tacky? Brilliant? Or a little of both?
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Today, the site is apparently workgroup organizing platform.
More interesting is that there is no "About" information, no contact information, nothing that describes who the people are who run the service.
There is one undamental rule and that is that the wine cannot be charged to the group at more than $20 per bottle. So we always ask that the hosts charge the lesser of the actual price or $20.
Going in everyone knows the arrangement. We could just rotate the event with one house picking up the total each time, but given the variety (I did one main course where it came out tp $7 per person) and another where it came out to $45 per person without including the wines in either case. This way we make sure that the $ doesn't get in the way of the fun.
but if the thing turns out to be something like.. 'Hey, I'd like to have you all over for dinner at my place, I'm cooking, bring your friends along.. oh yeah, BTW, its 20$ a head.. go fill out the paypal form.. it turns TACKY..
Having said that, I won't mind paying my friends who may not have a lot of money to spare but wants to experiment with cooking fine dining food. We just went over to a friend's place for dinner the other night. Prime rib, foie gras, truffles, etc., for about a dozen people. That meal is not cheap and I would have been happy to pay for some of those ingredients.
this site does not claim to do that.. they simply facilitate the 'party thrower' to suggest a party & the entry fee.. if enough ppl are interested, then paypal kicks in & money gets transferred..to what cause the money goes.. depends upon the host & their veracity..
the best case scenario.. Its a bunch of friends (with limited resources) pooling in money at the hands of the best cook/organizer, & have a night with fabulous food & company.. Money well spent..
worst case.. 30 $ a head.. Take out pizza & gallons of warm coke..
Tacky best.. People with means, doing this just to minimize their hosting costs..(like the entitles characters portrayed in those Bridezilla reality shows.. ooh, I plan to use my locked up Tiffany china, so I think everyone ought to pay for the privilege of using them!)
And, by the way I was not boasting about my fundraising things..but was trying to say that this site is certainly helpful in a way for such causes , if one wants to follow it. Ofcourse, I am also brought up by the concept of treating guests like Gods and I do follow that mantra to the core and do not believe in charging friends or guests.
Secondly, I am not here to judge anyone just for their opinion, because everyone is entitled to an opinion. And, one should only be concerned with their friends hosting parties and collecting money and making profits rather than commenting on someone's opinion. I remember my college days where I used to volunteer, work and now a lifelong member, use to have parties by contributing and dividing our bills , rather than losing friends I have made so many friends. And, as sexylambchopsx said, we do have dinners as movie night or poker night , and those who think they can judge others I have never charged my friends every time for the movie night dinners.
Firstly, it was started by college students, organizing and cooking for big group dinners with not such big-group budgets. What a great way to eat well (and together) even when you don't have the money to buy food for a crowd of 40.
Secondly, there are plenty of entertaining conventions that involve exchange of money (like fundraisers and supper clubs), for which a website like this would simply help to organize more efficiently.
IMHO, if you want to spend money on dinner, support a local restaurant.
If I were to hark back to grad student days.. Yes, I think this would be a GREAT idea..definitely a refreshing alternative to going out for dinner in a group (& the associated gripes about splitting the bill on who ordered the salad & who ate the lobster!)
Me too , can pay to have meals made by HLA!
Using PayPal commercializes what for me is a very personal event. I can just see: Birthday Dinner for Roberta Doe at Sue Smithereen's. $30.00 for dinner???? I don't think so. (or am I showing my age?)
Definitely an interesting thread as many of these opinion questions are. I enjoy, and learn from, reading comments from people who hold differing views.
For many years I have been a regular part of a group where I cannot, because I don't live in the area, reciprocate dinner invitations. The hosts understand, it's never been a problem. The rotation isn't equal; perhaps that's even part of the charm, to be beyond keeping score.
I don't have a problem with the site in question, you've convinced me some people could find it useful. It's only the exchange of cash I object to. And that's only my opinion (although I expect Miss Manners would agree).
I think it bothers me a bit more than it might otherwise, simply because I'm concerned about the overall commercialization of good manners -- there have been a number of situations recently where, rather than a hearty "thanks" and honest appreciation for a job well done, money and/or gift certificates were added to the situation, thus changing the dynamic from something that was done simply for the pleasure of doing it, to a commercial (read -- my opinion --crass) transaction that overall cheapened the experience for the person who did it in the first place. Is it a clash of generations, or does paying money for something that was intended to be a gift not only cheapen the gift but leave the gift giver less likely to do the good turn again? It is a very interesting, and repeated, thread in the advice columns.
Bottom line: know your audience and their expectations.
I don't think the question asked requires any understanding of the site. Simply put, it's one thing to throw a potluck and another to ask for money (unless you're running a restaurant).
However, after spending a few minutes checking it out, I agree it *could* be less tacky than I expected. And it could also be "college kegger".
The classic dinner party rotation allows costs and duties to be shared without the crassness of an exchange of cash. A guest's only obligation in my home is appreciation and none of my friends would ever insult me by offering anything more than help, a bottle of wine or a handful of flowers. Nor would I ever insult them likewise.
I survived my cash-strapped youth by entertaining within my means, as did my friends.
I also do like the idea of having "friend of a friend" inclusion, which the site certainly increases the likelihood of.
It also allows people to splurge without breaking the bank, and who doesn't like a nice splurge on occasion.
It's definitely not a concept for everyone, but I think it has its merits.
My daughter and her friends have quite sophisticated palates, and this is giving them room to really step out in the food world.
This is a fun thread, you can almost tell how old we are by our responses.
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Sent this on to my daughter who loves to cook and her friends always offer to pay. She is 24 and is thrilled with this web-site.
I would be more than willing to chip in for a meal with a great host. HLA, I would definitely pay to eat one of your meals!
A potluck is about sharing food and company with your friends or community. Asking for cash is indeed "tacky, tacky tacky". Possibly illegal as well.