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"Dickinson? Denison? Dawson?"
"No, Davidson."

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This is how the conversation normally starts when I say that I went to Davidson College. Located just north of Charlotte, the quintessential college town of Davidson used to be a well-kept secret—until 2015, that is. In June, former student Stephen Curry won an N.B.A. championship and an M.V.P. title.

But the fame I was more interested in was due to a recipe and a restaurant (sorry, Steph). 

Kindred Restaurant opened in February 2015 on Davidson's Main Street—the only street in town worth knowing. The opening was a warm homecoming for the Davidson-bred owner and chef, Joe Kindred, who started the restaurant with his wife Katy.

The first week it opened, a number of my colleagues at Summit coffee shop visited and each came back regaling the same story, about the same recipe, the same starter, the same bread: Kindred's Milk Bread.

For a whole week, I couldn't stop hearing about how addictive, how salty, how warm this bread was. But the whole time, I was wondering, What's all this fuss about a loaf of bread?

   

And now, I'm preaching that fuss to you. After a week, I couldn't take it anymore and I decided to try the Milk Bread and the rest of Kindred's menu for myself. I walked the five minutes it took to get there and was seated at a table for four, where I waited for my other friends to arrive (as I, the eager restaurant eater, often do).

Then I saw it: the Milk Bread. The waiter, seeing that I was seated, came and placed it on my empty table. Now, how was I supposed to sit there waiting for my friends to arrive with this bread, the Milk Bread, placed in front of me? I eyed its muffin-like top, bursting with sparkly salt. The spots of sandy-colored dough bunked next to a darker golden shell brainwashed me. How long until they get here? And then, in moments, my friends seated themselves and the four of us tried—and finished—Kindred's Milk Bread

Then we ordered another. And another. You get it—I was on the bandwagon. 

Since then, I've visited Kindred three more times, each time consuming inappropriate amounts of Milk Bread. But given the fact that my love for Kindred's Milk Bread now fringes on addiction and I no longer live in Davidson, I decided that I would have to make the Milk Bread at home.

Within twenty-four hours hours of learning the recipe (I was lucky enough to host Chef Joe Kindred in our office with my Food52 colleagues), I made four loaves. And to my great delight, every one in our office ate their bodyweight in Kindred's Milk Bread that day. And they're still talking about it. 

Now, it's time for you to make it! Not sure what you might use it for? If you don't want to eat Milk Bread plain (but really, is that even a question?), Joe says that you can truly enjoy it at every meal: French toast, sandwich bread, burgers, lobster rolls, doughnuts. Just swap the Milk Bread recipe in and you're one step closer to creating a whole new network of followers. 

Kindred's Milk Bread

Recipe adapted from Bon Appétit

Makes 6 rolls, two 9- by 5-inch loaves, or 12 split-top buns

5 1/3 cups bread flour, divided, plus more for surface (Kindred uses King Arthur)
1 cup heavy cream
1/3 cup mild honey (such as wildflower or alfalfa)
3 tablespoons nonfat dry milk powder (such as Alba)
2 tablespoons active dry yeast (from about 3 envelopes)
3 large eggs
4 tablespoons (1/2 stick) unsalted butter, cut into pieces, at room temperature
Nonstick vegetable oil spray
Flaky sea salt (optional, but shouldn't be)

See the full recipe (and save and print it) here. 

Photos by Bobbi Lin and Blake Pope; video by Mark Weinberg

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161 Comments

Sandy November 9, 2023
How much water? I don’t see it.
 
relishyourchef November 25, 2020
Has anyone ever made this and frozen it after a first or second rise? Wondering how far along I can make it, and then refrigerate or freeze to hold until I would like to bake it.
Thanks!
 
Melissa November 23, 2020
I made this recipe today and I’m thrilled with it. The dough is so supple and easy to work with. Mine started to brown very quickly and needed a foil tent for the last twenty minutes or so, so I recommend checking in on it while it bakes.

I don’t have two loaf pans, so I baked half in an 8X8 ceramic baking pan. The six balls didn’t quite fill the pan but it turned out just fine. I suspect you could make this recipe work in pretty much whatever pans you have on hand.

To echo Nina’s comment, I’d love to know where to find those individual enamel bowls.
 
Melissa November 24, 2020
Found the enamelware bowls! They’re barnlight enamelware bowls in jadite with black specks.

https://www.barnlight.com/porcelain-dinnerware/bowls/build-your-own-porcelain-enamelware-bowl-collection/
 
Nina B. March 28, 2020
I can’t count the ways Food 52 has enriched our lives but now crave those Enamelware bowls in which Kindred’s Milk Bread is baked. Can you let us know the source?
 
Karen September 11, 2018
I'm sorry.. but Betty, was your sea salt lecture really necessary ? Every one has the choice to use it or not when they know the medical effects it ( sea salt ) may have ? Just Sayin.
 
Betty August 7, 2018
For all us cooks who use sea salt, do you realize what you are doing to your bodies? The reason Morton salt has iodine in it is to prevent GOITERS and THYROID operations and also to keep from taking pills before you eat in the morning. My mother had a goiter and I have a enlarged thyroid and I used Sea Salt. Why did I ? I followed. I followed recipes and articles and I kept using it. I even bought some fancy salt. Then I realized that we are following without checking out what we are following..So, ask your computer, teacher, doctor as to why we need the iodine.. Stop following. Be an individual.
 
Michael O. August 10, 2018
Iodine is available in sources other than salt. Depending on diet, everyone has different requirements.
 
carol September 15, 2018
Many many foods, vegs and dairy contain iodine. Yes, you can get too much. Getting high levels of iodine can cause some of the same symptoms as iodine deficiency, including goiter (an enlarged thyroid gland). High iodine intakes can also cause thyroid gland inflammation and thyroid cancer. Just saying from a dietitians point of view. There is a balance for everyone and everything.
But bread is yummy!!!
 
Matt February 15, 2019
have a sushi roll and get over yourself
 
Miles April 8, 2020
Enlighten us...😂. Sea salt has many trace and micronutrients...furthermore Ms. know it all. Iodine was introduced into salt in the 20’s. When we didn’t have such a selection of goods available to us. 100 years later it is not needed. Furthermore, that chemical shitstorm you liken to iodized salt is toxic to the human body. Furthermore, hashimotos is a very real and prevalent autoimmune condition, and supplementing Synthetic forms iodine as in iodized salt further destroys the thyroid gland. Now this is a good site not a medical site, save your erroneous opinionated rant for your FB page. No ones cares here.
 
Carol K. May 26, 2020
As I thyroid specialist, I can tell you thyroid problems including goiters secondary to iodine deficiency is extremely rare in the US. That may not be the case in other countries where dietary sources of iodine may not be as abundant as the in the US. If anything, we find many thyroid problems in the US from too much iodine supplementation by people who think they have a thyroid problem and supplement excessively on their own without seeking medical advise.
 
Susan B. April 11, 2021
I love seesaw I don’t use it that often but when I do I will do that
 
Mtlong04 June 25, 2018
Has anyone tried braiding this like challah?
 
Elizabeth S. May 31, 2018
hi! I just made this bread. Tastes great but my dough was much stickier than the dough in the video. Did anyone else add more bread flour? If so, how much? thanks
 
Melissa November 23, 2020
My dough was very sticky when it came out of the mixer, but it was really supple and perfect after the first rise.
 
Penny April 20, 2018
Has anyone tried substituting wholewheat flour (partially or totally)?
 
Greg E. May 14, 2018
It will not work. Whole wheat flour has sharp little points that puncture the walls. Just stop with the whole wheat stuff and enjoy your food.
 
NC July 8, 2018
Smh. Terrible assumption that someone isn't enjoying their food since ply bc they wanted to make the bread healthier. How rude and childish of you,grow up.
 
Miles April 8, 2020
Wheat will more than likely weigh it down and make it much denser. Try substituting a little at a time you will have to play with the ratio because of the different gluten content.
 
Penny November 24, 2020
I appreciate the technical part of your comment. But what's with the judging? I happen to like the nutty taste of whole wheat. Or - dare I say it? - I enjoy it immensely. Call the cops!
 
WittyBaker March 30, 2021
I love whole wheat too, far more flavor! David Leibovitz has a recipe for whole wheat croissant that is lovely and fairly easy that you can google.
For subbing whole wheat, keep in mind that most WW bread recipes mix 25 - 50% whole wheat with the white flour. Using all WW will greatly reduce the volume and tenderness of the bread. Read this article for more info:
https://www.kingarthurbaking.com/blog/2014/02/28/yeast-bread-rolls-and-pizza
 
Penny April 1, 2021
Very interesting, thank you so much!
 
Teresa March 29, 2018
What if I don’t have bread flour? Can I use regular flour? If so what needs to be done different, if anything?
I ask this hoping not to offend anybody or cause a storm of mean responses. It’s a question I have had before but never asked. For some reason I feel compelled to ask today. I am an experienced cook/Baker. Definitely not at a professional level, but I know what I’m doing in the kitchen for the most part. How does a person find out something unless they ask, right? So here it goes.....
Thank you much and I hope you all have a wonderful evening! Take care!
 
MD March 29, 2018
you can definitely use All Purpose flour (hey, it's for All Purposes, afterall!). Bread flour has, if I'm remembering correctly (my mom is an avid baker and obsessive, frenetic researcher), has a higher amount of gluten, so you get a better elasticity/bounce to the bread. It definitely produces a nicer finished product, but not having it absolutely is *not* a dealbreaker!
 
Robin S. May 28, 2018
Look up how to make bread flour. It's like 2 tsp. of corn starch to each cup of all purpose flour.
 
Sherry F. June 15, 2018
I think you are making cake flour this way.
 
Robin S. June 18, 2018
You are so right, thanks! I looked it up:
Add one teaspoon vital wheat gluten per cup of flour. This converts all-purpose flour to a form that can be used just like bread flour. This ratio scales proportionally. For instance, if your recipe calls for 2 1/2 cups of bread flour, you would add 2 1/2 teaspoons vital wheat gluten to 2 1/2 cups of all-purpose flour.
 
mary February 23, 2018
The texture was amazing, it would be fun to add different spices, such as cardamon, or cinnamon etc. I would definitely make it again
thanks
 
Bella95 April 11, 2018
Oooh. Great idea. Cinnamon AND raisins would be SOOO good.
 
Shari February 21, 2018
So very VERY sad...They closed down the end of the farmer's market summer/fall season 2017. They were the most impressive bread artisans I've ever met in person. Everything was wonderful. I enjoyed them back when they were just a tent in the market. WOW! Irreplaceable...They now live in Morganton NC. No word if they have another location. My only question...Did you get the biscuit recipe? Hate them normally but fell head over heals with their breakfast biscuits!!! It's like they bake with bread fairy magic...LOL.
 
Raymond G. July 2, 2018
Hey. Who are the bakers you're talking about? What was their business called?
 
Karlie F. January 13, 2018
This bread also makes the most AMAZING bread and butter pudding. Just sayin'!
 
Picholine December 30, 2017
There is an inconsistency with the recipe as posted here and the one that says “for the full recipe”the full recipe calls for a lot of salt . The first has none added to Dough . Big difference!
 
Olga D. December 30, 2017
Way too salty. Dissapointed with mine.
 
Picholine December 30, 2017
Kosher salt is best used! Has to be your measurements!
 
Picholine December 30, 2017
After checking , one recipe has salt the other doesn’t so maybe one is written wrong
 
Teresa D. December 29, 2017
This appears very similar to a brioche recipe I've made before, with adjustments, brioche is addicting, is a bread, not a roll... differences in room temperature, humidity, flour temperature, and various things like altitude can affect a bread in the end. IF a person tries it without success, please find out what was wrong on attempt one and adjust from there. Advice from one pastry chef to others, use your nose, tastebuds, & overall senses when creating food. A roll IS a type of bread, no need to judge one stripe by another. But the difference is merely in the shaping from pan to pan & ingredient content is a very blurred line. Best wishes!
 
Kirsten M. December 12, 2017
Just deleted all the nonsense about this being a) bread, and b) addictive. It is an overly sweet roll that amazingly is also too salty. It is not bread. Get it? Not bread.
 
kris November 12, 2017
the reason it's so popular is because it's basically a sweet roll! Cream, butter, eggs, honey...! This is not Bread! Add some cinnamon and frosting on the top--you'll have cinnamon buns. But bread it is not....
 
Gias A. October 31, 2017
superv.
 
MrSnickers October 26, 2017
I've made about 4 times until I found a Milk Bread with Honey Bread. This is very good however I do not think I would give up at this recipe. There are much grander out there.
 
Marie October 20, 2017
I did not use the salt that was included in the recipe I used only a half teaspoon mine came out delicious
 
Beth100 October 20, 2017
A possible solution to the overly-salty issues many are experiencing:

https://www.chowhound.com/food-news/47641/thats-so-salty-its-not-salty-enough/
 
Jody H. September 10, 2018
Thanks for the tip. The article was really interesting and made so much sense about how salty a recipe tastes! I will now adjust my recipes accordingly 😀
 
Dot W. October 18, 2017
Made this bread several weeks ago and it was AMAZING....a little salty mind and I might reduce that the next time I bake, but this recipe was so easy and so delicious. Both loaves had a really good crumb. If only bread was on my list of approved diet foods!
 
Marie October 15, 2017
Wish they had a way you can upload a photo because my Bread came out looking beautifully
 
Marie October 15, 2017
Bread
 
Marie October 15, 2017
Just made this bridge tonight and it came out just wonderful and it’s delicious will be making it again thanks
 
Marie October 15, 2017
Made this breed and it is absolutely delicious
 
Tamara O. October 1, 2017
Has anyone had success converting this to a bred maker recipe ? I haven't had success yet. Thank you
 
Alison August 31, 2017
Has anyone tried braiding this dough? I'd like to try it as challah, but don't know if the dough is workable.
 
T H. August 15, 2017
Can I sub evaporated milk for the heavy cream in this recipe? Thing is heavy cream is not an accessible option where I live. Holas from 🇳🇬
 
Aviva November 12, 2017
I just read your post, and to answer whether evaporated milk is a substitute for heavy cream, the answer is no. Evaporated milk is not as fatty as heavy cream, so the exchange of one for the other would alter the final texture and flavor of the bread. However, you could use it if you added one egg yolk to the recipe, in addition to the eggs already in the recipe. That might give you the extra fat structure for the bread as well as the fat tines that heavy cream adds.
 
WINNIE T. February 6, 2018
go online and look for substitute for heavy cream. I know you just add butter to milk to make a good substitute. I can't remember how much butter you use per cup of milk so don't want to give you bad advice.
 
Ceege August 11, 2017
I would like to try making this recipe with the two bread pans. I am a bit confused with the directions. Do I make a total of 12 pieces (6 balls per pan) or am I to make 12 pieces for each pan. Can't wait to try this recipe. Thanks for your help.
 
Maura F. August 31, 2017
I made it with 2 loaf pans, 6 balls in each and it came out beautifully.
 
Ellen G. July 19, 2017
Made two batches of this for a dinner party, which amounted to two cake pans of rolls (Sister Schubert style), a 9x13" pan of rolls (ditto), and a single loaf pan of bread (I didn't shape it specially; just patted it into form, dropped it in, and let it rise again). I was wary from the comments about the salt, so even though I was using Crystal Diamond, I cut it down from 2T to closer to 1-1/3T or so. The bread was DELICIOUS; all the rolls were devoured at the party, and the loaf made great sandwich bread. But I think it would have been fine with more salt. So I'd say it really comes down to the brand you use. Crystal Diamond: salt as written in this recipe is fine. Morton's? Table salt? Adjust it down. As a Davidson alumna of the pre-Kindred era, I look forward to visiting the next time I'm down south to find out if my attempt is a good approximation!
 
CoffeeAndBaconYum July 18, 2017
Can SAF instant yeast be used in place of the active dry yeast?
 
Lauren S. July 13, 2017
I noticed Bon Appetite and there is not the blatant mention of sex that took away from recipes. To have access to recipes from overseas I would like to try FOOD52. Food is too sociable to mention sex next to it out of nowhere and it was not l'amore. If it happens again here I will leave the greater alone. Still might love of food stay? Thank you for composing Bon A. The "F" word is not food.
 
Lauren S. July 19, 2017
I have read some food adventures and this is about milk bread. I know that bread looks splendid in this dish. Thanks for saying it too salty. I will try to half the salt.
 
Kim July 6, 2017
I followed the recipe. The bread looked beautiful. However, it was very salty. I would at least use half of what is called for, maybe quarter.
 
Jeanne G. June 9, 2017
I found it to be way too salty. I halved the recipe to make just one loaf, and couldn't finish the loaf and ended up feeding most of it to the ducks in the duck pond near my house. I would cut the amount of kosher salt in the bread dough by at least half, and quite possible would only use a scant teaspoon.
 
Lucy R. June 11, 2017
Please don't feed bread to ducks ~ especially salty bread :(
 
Jen June 24, 2017
Feeding bread to ducks will make them very sick, and uneaten bread causes nasty algae growth in the water (not good algae that they should eat), which will make them sicker. Please only feed birds proper seed from a wildlife store.
 
carol July 16, 2017
no feeding ducks with bread!
 
Picholine June 3, 2017
Could this recipe be halved?
 
Mrs B. June 1, 2017
Actually, Steph Curry put Davidson on the map in 2008, in the NCAA tournament, when the "Baby Faced Assassin" put on an eye-popping shooting performance to propel the 10 seed Wildcats to the Elite Eight.
More here http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2407427-the-baby-faced-assassin-relive-stephen-currys-magical-ncaa-tournament-run
 
Matt J. May 31, 2017
isnt this recipe missing the salt in the dough?
 
BakerRB May 31, 2017
It shows up in the full recipe if you click through to it (link at the bottom of the partial recipe here).
 
Ayen May 11, 2017
This is the bread Asians have been baking and eating galore for centuries. Where I come from, the Philippines, the so-called "national" bread is called pan de sal, salt bread. There are as many variations of this bread as there are islands in my country. The best comes from my hometown where this rolls are legendary and ambrosial. The crusty crust, very thin and brittle shatter on first bite, the crumb, pillowy soft but dense and chewy at the same time. It's headily nutty, fragrant and eaten on its own. It doesn't need anything else except the brewed, pungent Barako coffee, sweet as love, black as the devil and hot as hell. An authentic French baguette doesn't come a close second, which we find hard and tasteless.
It is said that it would be a travesty to this masterpiece of a roll to dilute its flavour. An authentic French baguette doesn't come a close second.
 
La August 31, 2017
I'm glad someone pointed that out.
 
stefanie September 22, 2017
Thank you for this comment. I've also been eating this bread from Chinese bakeries since I was a child.
 
Sheri April 10, 2017
What size is the enamelware bowl shown in the picture? So beautiful!
 
Terri May 11, 2017
Wondering the same thing - did you find out?
 
Sheri May 11, 2017
Unfortunately not.
 
toffeydog March 30, 2017
Is there a non-dairy option for the nonfat dry milk powder?
In other recipes, I've had success substituting coconut baking milk for heavy cream, but not sure about the dried milk.
 
toffeydog June 1, 2017
Still waiting for a response please
 
meag June 4, 2017
try powdered coconut milk
 
toffeydog June 19, 2017
I didn't even know that existed. Thank you so much! :)
 
vrinda March 17, 2017
Any chance I can use a non white flour ?
It's still early into 2017 my New years resolution and all that !
 
Lindsey March 17, 2017
Where did you get that enamel baking pan and is it oven safe?
 
Ashlee T. March 17, 2017
Barnlight Electric Company! They are based out of Titusville, FL and everything is hand crafted in the USA! And yes it is oven safe. : )
 
Ashlee T. March 17, 2017
Www.barnlightelectric.com
 
Annie February 20, 2018
What size bowl is in the photo? Thank you
 
Kim N. March 17, 2017
anybody try to make this gluten free and have success?
 
Suzanne H. March 17, 2017
I have made this using this recipe and it is wonderful. It is so easy. And this bread makes great croutons.
 
lois March 6, 2017
I have to try this. I have a slight bread addiction. I have never tried a bread with heavy cream. For those of you trying to save, You can print a coupon for King Arthur flour at https://frugalharbor.com/
 
Vicki H. February 24, 2017
Gday I'm in Nuriootpa a Township in the beautiful Barossa Valley South Australia. I've not cooked bread before but when i saw the recipe i thought I'd better have a go! Yes! It was really good! So good that it nearly all disappeared before it had a chance to get cold. Thanks for the recipe! My mum was a really good country cook & i know she would have been really proud & happy with the bread I cooked. To those that complain i say, if at first you don't succeed try, try again! Even the best chefs have days when nothing seems to work out! 😉keep up the yummy recipes! I really enjoy having a go at your recipes. 👍🍞⛥🤗
 
catherine M. March 3, 2017
Vicki, I'm so happy to hear that!! Glad it worked out great. I'll be baking it again this weekend!
 
Catalin February 15, 2017
This is the same recipe as Japanese Milk Bread which has been in the US for decades in specialy Japanese bakeries. ,The recipe was a coveted secret until a bakery helper stole it and the rest is history. How nice we can make for ourselves and serve it warm. So delish.
 
catherine M. March 3, 2017
So delicious! Thank you for the history, Catalin.
 
Jennifer B. January 8, 2017
FYI: You'll want to let the roux cool to lukewarm before adding the yeast so the heat doesn't kill the yeast, or your bread won't rise.
 
Manuela O. January 8, 2017
It looks really good and i'll give it a try. Just missed seeing a photo of the inside of the bread, which gives a better idea of the texture.
 
catherine M. March 3, 2017
Thanks, Manuela! Let me know how it goes.
 
Jevon O. December 15, 2016
Why powdered milk?
 
Tamara N. November 15, 2016
How far ahead can I make this for dinner and still be good. Does it need to be fresh out of the oven? Is it good the next day?
 
catherine M. January 5, 2017
Hi Tamara,
This is definitely good the next day. I usually pop mine into the oven for ~10-15 min at 350degrees just before serving to heat them up. I've eaten these breads up to four days after baking + two months in the freezer!
 
Ramey October 28, 2016
Can I use dry malt (diastatic ) powder in this recipe and if so how much.
 
andy October 12, 2016
The "heavy cream" bothered me a bit, so I didn't make this delicious-sounding bread! I read all comments, including the "argumentative" ones, and can only say that like Thumper Rabbit's mother said, "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything ."
As to measurement by weight vs. volume or quantity, I grew up in USA and know what a cup means (to us) and a teaspoon and a "pinch" of something and so on, and cooked that way on a wood-fired stove, then gas, then electric, - it all works and if you are European and used to measurements by grams, and like your kitchen scale, great! Whatever works.
BTW, the ancient wood-stove cooked and baked better for me than anything, here in WA state. Lotsa free wood too! But the grates wore out, and one does not just run down to Home Depot and buy another. One more "lost" American thing to be regretted!
 
Jude February 20, 2017
I'm not crazy about the 'heavy cream' either so I get what you mean. The recipe sounds simular to a Jewish challah egg bread recipe I came across decades back. I followed the recipe a few times, then made it without a recipe. Since I've been regularly making all types of bread for decades, recipes are mostly a guide and ideas for me.
I, too, cooked on an old wood stove for many years (the best sort of radiant heat in winter ever!) and miss it. Gas came in second with electric way behind in third place. Wood cookstove meant a huge surface area to cook on with no restrictions in the size of the bottom of a pan.
 
Duchess O. September 18, 2016
This bread sounds fabulous! Good bread is one excellent reason for being alive!
Thank you for sharing the recipe. And those little enamelware pans are too stinking adoable for words.
What in heavens name do all these rude comments have to do with bread? Really? Stay teachable and express some gratitude. And bake some bread!
Hungry people are angry people
Isn't the term for that "hangry"?
 
catherine M. March 3, 2017
Yes, hangry is right! Thanks Duchess :)
 
Zippy S. August 29, 2016
Thank you for sharing, this looks great as it stands and so much potential for tweeking. Cheers!
 
catherine M. January 5, 2017
Thanks Zippy! Did you try it out? Glad you saw the recipe!
 
shy August 16, 2016
an i do love bread
 
Ashlee T. August 10, 2016
Awesome bowl! My step father and my mother both work for Barn Light Electric Co.. Almost everything is hand spun and USA made! Jadite is one of my favorite colors :) My cousin Brian and his wife own and created the company. Located in Titusville, FL :)
 
catherine M. January 5, 2017
Hi Ashlee - I'm a huge fan of the bowl and BLE. Really great product!
 
Susan Z. June 9, 2017
Hi Ashlee,
Do you happen to know what size bowls are used in the photo. Large? EXtra large?
 
toweringinferno October 14, 2017
From the sharp angle of the sides to the bottom, and comparing it to the hand in one of the photos, it looks like the Small size. :) Such a cute presentation!
 
Judy J. July 28, 2016
Omg! What's WRONG with you people! ? Why can't you just THANK the nice lady for sharing this wonderful bread!? You might as well be in politics! Thank you very much for posting this recipe. I can't wait to try it. The "complainers" need to take out their "frustrations" on kneading the bread! !!! Bahaha
 
catherine M. January 5, 2017
Thanks Judy! I hope you had fun trying the recipe!
 
Hidayah July 16, 2016
Hi ladies I live in south africa and we actually have those lil enamels here ....we have them in different sizes and shapes.hope its helpful.
 
Michelle W. July 15, 2016
Okay so I followed this recipe exactly, here is how I would change this recipe:
1. Next time I make this I will whisk the 5 cups of flour, milk powder, yeast and salt together before adding the eggs, and the flour, water, honey & cream mixture- the reason is the milk powder ended up turning into little undissolved pellets, that I ended up plucking out.
2. I think I would this divide even better between two pans. These things are huge! I noticed that in the instructions, they mention that after the shaped dough has proofed they'll be poofing out of the pan. Mine were well over the pan even before proofing, so when I went to bake them they were billowing out of the pan.
I may have baked them a little too long, so they were a wee bit dry on the surface, but otherwise, yes, these are quite good, a texture reminiscent to Hawaiian bread. I used kosher salt and did not find these in the least bit too salty, though my god, two tbsp is a lot.
 
Michelle W. July 15, 2016
I'm I the midst of making this but I'm worried, bits of the milk powder didn't absorb and are sticking out all around the dough. Do they dissolve in the baking process? Guess we'll see
 
Joanne U. July 9, 2016
How many of the speckled baking cups will I need for this recipe. I'm planning on ordering the green baking cups in your photo. Thanks.
 
catherine M. July 13, 2016
You'll need 4 of the size in the photo!
 
Annie February 20, 2018
Can you please tell me what size bowl to order? Thank you!
 
BEVERLY July 3, 2016
Wish you would add an email option to Facebook and Tweet for those of us who do not do them.
Recipe looks wonderful!!!
 
Jeremy B. July 7, 2016
There is an email option on the left of the screen at the top.
 
abbyarnold June 30, 2016
Two TABLEspoons or TEAspoons of yeast? It seems like a huge amount.
 
Amy July 9, 2016
It's 2 TABLEspoons. It goes on to say 3 envelopes of yeast, which are about 2 1/4 teaspoons of yeast each. Plus I made this the other day and it worked with tablespoons.
 
abbyarnold July 9, 2016
Thanks, Amy! I'll try it! I guess the cream weighs it down and it needs more yeast to make it rise.
 
Karen June 12, 2016
Do you happen to know how to adjust for high altitude? I want to make this in Denver (5280 feet)!
 
Sandra August 5, 2016
I'm in Prescott at 5600 feet. I am going to try this recipe this morning but will use less yeast because at this altitude two tablespoons would cause this to explode all over my oven. I usually have to bake longer than any recipe calls for so I use a thermometer and make sure bread gets to at least 195 degrees internally to about 205.
 
catherine M. January 5, 2017
Hi Sandra, How did this work out with your adjustments?
 
Sandra January 5, 2017
I cut the yeast down to 1 tablespoon and used half and half instead of cream and baked it in 9X5 glass baking dishes. The bread rose very well and the taste was wonderful. Everyone loved it. I think it would make a great base recipe for cinnamon buns too, or a cream cheese coffee braid now that I am thinking about it! (Also, I meant to say on my original comment that I made sure bread baked to between 195 and 205 degrees)
 
DellaMelton May 10, 2016
I will be traveling thru Chatlotte area on my to Kentucky in 2 weeks. I will just have to swing in here and try this famous bread.
 
catherine M. January 5, 2017
Hi DellaMelton - Let me know if you visited Kindred. It's a true delight!
 
KateWarren May 6, 2016
I also would like to know where to find the green speckled enamelware baking cup/pan. I looked on-line and could not find anything comparable. Maybe Food52 could source these?
 
2xcb May 7, 2016
http://www.barnlightelectric.com/industrial-decor/industrial-home-utility/enamel-graniteware-cup-8oz.html

 
2xcb May 7, 2016
Click on the jadite and black and there ya go!
 
Nikita May 6, 2016
regaling*

Also, it requires an object. The colleagues regaled you with the story; they didn't regale the story.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/regale
 
Elevator2TheTop May 11, 2016
brainwashed*

Textbook catechresis. But, she's a Davidson grad -- which means someone paid too much for her education(?).
 
Elevator2TheTop May 11, 2016
*catachresis ...apparently didn't save the spelling correction when I logged in to post
 
K M. July 16, 2016
Both of you are rude. My son went to Davidson (with Steph Curry, as it happens), and anyone who knows of it also knows it parallels the Ivies in terms of college credibility. Yes, it is expensive, but it's worth it. And, obviously, whatever college the two of you attended didn't teach you manners. The bonus with Davidson is that (most of) their student body has been raised to be impeccably polite--unlike some who choose to post here....
 
Rosie May 6, 2016
Could you define how much dry yeast this is in weight (grams)? Outside of America, pretty much everybody uses weights for baking!
 
Chris May 22, 2016
1 oz = 28.3495g = 10tsp active dry yeast.
therefore 2 tsp of active dry yeast = 5.6699g.

...which took me approximately 30s to google and then do the math for you. Here in America, we're self-sufficient like that and capable of simple information gathering. Who knew?
 
Rosie May 23, 2016
Wow, so needlessly patronising! Do you feel better about yourself now you've got your smarmy quota filled for the day?

Food52 itself has posts about why we should all be using weights for baking. It's not unreasonable to expect a website that has expressed that opinion to be consistent and carry it through in the recipes they publish, including ones by writers/cooks other than the authors of those posts.

https://food52.com/blog/16497-the-truth-about-your-measuring-cup-dun-dun-dun
https://food52.com/blog/9904-the-many-reasons-using-a-scale-will-change-your-life
 
Chris May 23, 2016
Your original post was the only unreasonable transgression here. I guess you hdn't met your passive aggressive snark quota for the day? And no one needs a misplaced lecture on the obvious benefits of using weight to measure baking ingredients. Hop off your soapbox.

The really sad part is you think this was about flexing some level of smarts. This task was so effortless and rudimentary that asking for the answer by imposing on the recipe provider seems almost insulting.
 
Mauricio L. July 12, 2016
Totally agree SHE started the snark. And so lazy to boot. . .
 
Mauricio L. July 12, 2016
Rosie, it is obvious your question was posted for the sole purpose of adding the snarky, patronizing comment.
 
Ann H. November 26, 2017
A year later, may I say that Rosie is absolutely right? Food52 DOES say--and they're correct--that adding ingredients by weight works better than adding them by volume. I'm an American, by the way, and I wish all Americans would get on board with what the rest of the world is doing. There's no reason a recipe can't list quantities by weight AND volume, but the weight should definitely be first because it's more precise. I can't believe people who care about baking--and baking bread, at that!--would get upset at someone's asking for weights.
 
Rosie November 28, 2017
Haha, cheers Ann... I kept getting email alerts for those bitchy replies to what was a straightforward question; such an unnecessary and bizarre reaction. FYI to the butthurt men, I am perfectly capable of working it out myself - as a non-American avid home cook I'm used to doing so *constantly* while using American recipes. I was requesting it be defined in the recipe. If a website has multiple articles extolling the superiority of weights in recipes, it's not much to expect that they follow through in their other content. It's not "insulting" (WTF?), it's an expectation of consistency and user-friendliness from a professionally-managed, profit-making food website. And yeast specifically is an extremely precise ingredient: better that the recipe writer specify how much *they* used (in weight) at the time of testing, since that could have potentially not been the same as what the internet defines as the weight equivalent.
 
Ann H. November 28, 2017
And weights for flour make a huge difference. A "cup" of flour can contain 2 extra ounces if it's not scooped properly. Besides, it's EASIER putting a bowl on a scale and adding the ingredients by weight!
And you're right about the inconsistency of online conversions. We can't just go to a conversion page and trust that the recipe will come out the way its creator intended. We need to be given the weights
s/he uses.
 
Chris November 28, 2017
Ann,
It's truly amazing that you can find a post more than a year old and then choose to respond to it without even taking the time to understand what has been said. No one here ever espoused an opinion contrary to weight being the gold standard for baking measurements. If you'd apply a modicum of reading comprehension you'd realize that our argument was always and only about attitude, even if Rosie -- like you -- didn't understand that at first.

Rosie,
I also find these email responses about such a silly past argument irksome. I'd intended to ignore Ann's response until you seemingly couldn't help yourself with yours. Whether or not it's a good idea for food52.com to insist that recipe authors provide ingredient weight (I agree with this, btw) was never part of the discussion. You seem to be laboring under a delusion or making a conscious attempt to change history for yourself. You were never making an attempt to get the weight of yeast defined in the recipe; at least not in a transparent manner. You asked the author directly in a comment for a quantity conversion and snarkily poked fun at an American convention you dislike. This was not some heroic, progressive agenda you were forwarding, so please get down off your baker's cross. I wonder if that isn't a very clear sign of a 'butthurt' woman...
 
Rosie November 28, 2017
Haha. Oh Ann, aren't you terribly grateful to have had your "reading comprehension" helpfully corrected by such a learned and wise specimen?! I know I'm sure grateful I had this dude here to explain the "attitude" problem of a pretty neutral statement, laced at most with mild annoyance. Good lord. Chris, I'm sure you won't be ok to just absorb this and leave it at that without further argument, condescension, and rudeness, but there was genuinely not a drop of snark in my original comment. But go ahead and patronisingly correct me mate. If you can read such negativity into something so innocuous, I'm sure you'll get a kick out of reacting even more vehemently to this. *Sigh*...
 
Ann H. November 28, 2017
Please go back and reread Rosie's original question and then explain how it could possibly be construed as snarky. She asked a question and she pointed out that most countries in the civilized world use metric weights for ingredients. As for weighing in after a year, why not? You seem just as agitated as you did a year ago. And there's no statute of limitations when it comes to unfairness.
 
Chris November 28, 2017
Rosie,
I could spend the next 30min deconstructing your poor grasp on argument and all the ways that what you're saying belies a core fault in rational understanding, but I'll not make that effort. At the end of it, neither of us would be the better for it. Instead, I'll call back to our original exchange and ask you to in the future try really hard to understand what is being said before responding to someone, especially when you've been publicly denounced for "pretty neutral" bigotry.

Ann,
My 'agitation' is an artifact of your imagination, not reality. And there's also no statute of limitation on the amount of time you're allowed to take in reading and understanding this conversation. Why don't you take another year and change to mull this one over? Maybe you'll get it then.
 
Ann H. November 28, 2017
You still haven't said what it was you found snarky in Rosie's original request for ingredient weights. Until you specifically answer that, a) I win and b) you lose.
 
Chris November 28, 2017
I didn't bother to address your question because at no point did you bother to take the time to understand the conversation, which would have obviated the need for an explanation.

Oh, and this isn't a contest, so you can declare yourself winner of whatever you like, kid.
 
Ann H. November 28, 2017
Actually, the question is not that hard to follow. Rosie asked for the weight of the yeast in the recipe. You answered her question and then added,
1 oz = 28.3495g = 10tsp active dry yeast.
therefore 2 tsp of active dry yeast = 5.6699g.

"...which took me approximately 30s to google and then do the math for you. Here in America, we're self-sufficient like that and capable of simple information gathering. Who knew?"

--In other words, you made a patronizing, xenophobic, and gratuitously nasty answer to a simple question. I assume that as a fellow American--a connection I'm sorry to have to acknowledge at the moment--you got ruffled when Rosie pointed out that the U.S. is the only First World country that still uses volume in its recipe measurements. A perfectly reasonable observation.

[dusts off trophy, goes home]

 
Andrea May 5, 2016
Could this recipe be adapted to use wild yeast (sourdough starter) as opposed to active dry yeast?
 
Annie May 5, 2016
What is that adorable little pan in the photo? Do you know where to get them? How is the recipe modified for a pan like that? Such a cool presentation! Thank you !
 
Alexandra G. May 5, 2016
Looks like an enamel bowl. Safe for using in the oven :)
 
Pennie B. July 2, 2016
barnlightelectric.com They are $18 each
 
Shawna G. March 7, 2016
Has anyone tried this with the Gluten Free Flour Blend?? I always find it hard to predict when it will or will not work...
 
Mary S. February 19, 2016
Would this recipe work in a bread machine? Could it be modified to work?
 
Ashley K. December 15, 2015
Any suggestions on the best way to modify this for gluten free bread?
 
Ronald H. December 20, 2015
King Arthur makes an all purpose GF bread flour specifically for bread and pizza dough. You might try substituting that for the regular wheat flour.
 
catherine M. January 5, 2017
^ I second this suggestion! Let me know how it turns out :)