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Hanuman@09
May 14, 2021
the article states that there's no term for "curry" in India. well, I absolutely disagree to this particular statement. As an Indian, I have to say that there is a term for curry in India and it is called as "Kadhi" OR "Kadi". I wish you could research more about things like these.
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Tazmin A.
May 18, 2017
Hi!
I love this article and the discussions it's spawned. This is also one of my beefs so I'm thrilled to read all of the above. I've had this conversation with my non-Indian friends as well! My Québécoise ex-mother-in-law made a dip for fondue that consisted of mayonnaise and 'curry powder'. Lol. She was shocked and heartbroken when I told her that Indians didn't use this. And that this bottle she'd bought from the grocery store was cheap crap, consisting mostly of turmeric and fillers. 😂 lol!
I love this article and the discussions it's spawned. This is also one of my beefs so I'm thrilled to read all of the above. I've had this conversation with my non-Indian friends as well! My Québécoise ex-mother-in-law made a dip for fondue that consisted of mayonnaise and 'curry powder'. Lol. She was shocked and heartbroken when I told her that Indians didn't use this. And that this bottle she'd bought from the grocery store was cheap crap, consisting mostly of turmeric and fillers. 😂 lol!
Laura415
December 23, 2016
My first experience with curry was decidedly prosaic and probably not at all authentic. I had a roommate you made a yellow curry sauce with veggies and fruits! Sometimes green bananas, sometimes pineapple sometimes both. It was very sweet and savory but spicy. We cooled it down with yogurt mixed in and on top. Over rice it was filing and great tasting. Seems sweet but it had good balance. Wish I had that recipe to play with now that I'm all grown up. Great article!
TerryEStephens
August 16, 2016
I live in So. Calif near the LA Suburb of Cerritos which has a very large East Indian enclave. I can assure you that they frequently use 'curry' spices, and that they most definitely are stocked and sold in large quantities in their markets. There is an entire aisle in most of the stored dedicated to Indian spices, curry versions in particular. The Indian Cuisine Restaurants all off a number of dishes that are 'curried'.
TerryEStephens
August 16, 2016
Curry (/ˈkʌri/, plural curries) is a dish originating in the cuisine of the Indian Subcontinent. The common feature is the use of complex combinations of spices or herbs, usually including fresh or dried hot chillies. The use of the term is generally limited to dishes prepared in a sauce.[1] Curry dishes prepared in the southern states of India may be spiced with leaves from the curry tree.[2]
There are many varieties of dishes called 'curries'. For example, in original traditional cuisines, the precise selection of spices for each dish is a matter of national or regional cultural tradition, religious practice, and, to some extent, family preference. Such dishes are called by specific names that refer to their ingredients, spicing, and cooking methods.[3] Traditionally, spices are used both whole and ground; cooked or raw; and they may be added at different times during the cooking process to produce different results. The main spices found in most curry powders of the Indian subcontinent are coriander, cumin, and turmeric; a wide range of additional spices may be included depending on the geographic region and the foods being included (fish, lentils, red or white meat, rice, and vegetables).[4] Curry powder, a commercially prepared mixture of spices, is largely a Western creation, dating to the 18th century. Such mixtures are commonly thought to have first been prepared by Indian merchants for sale to members of the British Colonial government and army returning to Britain.
Dishes called 'curry' may contain fish, meat, poultry, or shellfish, either alone or in combination with vegetables. Additionally, many instead are entirely vegetarian, eaten especially among those who hold ethical or religious proscriptions against eating meat or seafood.
Curries may be either 'dry' or 'wet'. Dry curries are cooked with very little liquid which is allowed to evaporate, leaving the other ingredients coated with the spice mixture. Wet curries contain significant amounts of sauce or gravy based on yoghurt, cream, coconut milk, coconut cream, legume purée, or broth.
There are many varieties of dishes called 'curries'. For example, in original traditional cuisines, the precise selection of spices for each dish is a matter of national or regional cultural tradition, religious practice, and, to some extent, family preference. Such dishes are called by specific names that refer to their ingredients, spicing, and cooking methods.[3] Traditionally, spices are used both whole and ground; cooked or raw; and they may be added at different times during the cooking process to produce different results. The main spices found in most curry powders of the Indian subcontinent are coriander, cumin, and turmeric; a wide range of additional spices may be included depending on the geographic region and the foods being included (fish, lentils, red or white meat, rice, and vegetables).[4] Curry powder, a commercially prepared mixture of spices, is largely a Western creation, dating to the 18th century. Such mixtures are commonly thought to have first been prepared by Indian merchants for sale to members of the British Colonial government and army returning to Britain.
Dishes called 'curry' may contain fish, meat, poultry, or shellfish, either alone or in combination with vegetables. Additionally, many instead are entirely vegetarian, eaten especially among those who hold ethical or religious proscriptions against eating meat or seafood.
Curries may be either 'dry' or 'wet'. Dry curries are cooked with very little liquid which is allowed to evaporate, leaving the other ingredients coated with the spice mixture. Wet curries contain significant amounts of sauce or gravy based on yoghurt, cream, coconut milk, coconut cream, legume purée, or broth.
Ritu P.
August 14, 2016
As an Indian girl growing up in the States who has to field these sorts of questions frequently... thank you for writing this article. :)
Scribbles
August 11, 2016
I love the history of food! Most everything we eat in the US originated elsewhere and we've put our own spin on it - isn't that what is about? Finding something you like, tweaking it into something you can call your own...and sharing with family and friends. Food is meant to be shared and enjoyed. Thanks for this great article!
Annada R.
August 14, 2016
Thanks, Scribbles! Yes, the emotional appeal of any food is not only because it may have been passed to us from our families but also because of the unique ways in which we "tweak" and make each dish our own. And that's the beauty of these "curry" dishes from different countries like Vietnam, Thailand, S. Africa and Caribbean.
Phyllis W.
August 11, 2016
While your article was interesting, I am getting a bit tired of politics being thrown into everything. It's great to read tidbits if an area when doing a new recipe, but if one wants to write about history, do it separately. It's obvious both you and the writer don't like the English. I am lucky a friend has been teaching me about the different "curries" without the political comments. I'm teaching her about Italian cuisine without talking American vs real Italian food!
Matt
August 14, 2016
In what world did this article have bad things to say about the English? Politics have been wrapped up in what we eat ever since Columbus sailed to the Caribbean.
Karlene
August 10, 2016
I grew up in Jamaica and the 'curry' i knew was a yellow/green powder that came from a jar or spice packet. Recent exposure to articles like yours and to cooking channels and websites have taught me how limited my exposure has been (and thanks to local Indian shops I am able to experiment and expand my 'curry' experience :-).. )! Love to read about food and food history. You mentioned that scotch bonnet is from Trinidad. I grew up hearing scotch bonnet was a Jamaican pepper - another 'culturalised' mis-information? Thanks for an interesting read, looking forward to your reply on the scotch bonnet...
Annada R.
August 14, 2016
Hi Karlene, thank you so much for your appreciative comment. I would love to make one of the Jamaican curries, haven't tried making them or haven't had a chance to try them in a restaurant too. Can you suggest some recipes?
As far as scotch bonnet pepper is concerned, one of the books that I went through for this article mentioned that scotch bonnet is from Trinidad. But after reading your comment, I did some more research. Most mention scotch bonnet as a Caribbean pepper rather than coming from a country. I will continue my research and keep you updated. BTW, do you use super hot peppers like scotch bonnet in your everyday cooking?
As far as scotch bonnet pepper is concerned, one of the books that I went through for this article mentioned that scotch bonnet is from Trinidad. But after reading your comment, I did some more research. Most mention scotch bonnet as a Caribbean pepper rather than coming from a country. I will continue my research and keep you updated. BTW, do you use super hot peppers like scotch bonnet in your everyday cooking?
Karlene
August 17, 2016
Thanks for the response Annada. Yes, we do use hot peppers in everyday cooking. Definitely in most meat dishes.. the amount of cut pepper used depends on how much heat can be handled by family members. we have different types but scotch bonnet is loved for the flavour which comes with the heat. Those who want more heat will take fresh cut pieces and add to their meals. We drop whole scotch bonnet peppers in soups and in our local rice and peas (cooked in coconut milk - dry coconut blended with water and strained into the pot, and seasoned with skellion, garlic etc). We also have an escovietched fish where the fish is fried then covered in a pickle type sauce - vinegar, water, sugar, pimento berries (allspice), cut pieces of scotch bonnet, carrot, onion, all boiled separately then poured over the hot fried fish. I will gather some jamaican curry recipes and send to you, if you have an email to share please do so. we have many popular jamaican chefs who have written books so i am confident you can try some of those without disappointment :-). Oh, how could i forget our Jerk!! scotch bonnet is highly featured in that seasoning/marinade. this is quite lengthy but i have to mention that Jerk is not all about the seasoning, it also refers to the method of grilling where the meat is smoked/grilled over pimento (allspice) wood after being marinated sometimes overnight. Hope you have had the opportunity to sample some of our local jerk :-).
LYGIA D.
August 10, 2016
I come from the west coast where the curries have specific names depending o n the spice mixes- baffad, cafrael, sorpatel, fish curry, different from prawn curry, and the veggie "curries" with each a unique mix of spices
cosmiccook
August 10, 2016
Oh yes, although its considered "bad form" in the manners world to do so, EVERY time we get together with friends and family its always about food. And do we get personal about chefs and restaurants here! You'd think we were related to them to hear us discuss chefs dishes, personalities their private life even!
JP
August 10, 2016
When I was a child I was served curries of chicken or lamb stewed with chopped up green apples, currents and onions in a "curry sauce." It was served over a bed of rice and with various condements at the table, such as peanuts, shredded coconut, chopped eggs, currents, chutneys, and yogurt. I think my parents called it british curry, or something like that. I have never been able to find a recipe for anything like it.
Gervasia
August 10, 2016
Something for the more philosophical side of the conversation and then I'll shut up! Cuisines, like languages, are always changing, picking up new influences and influencing others. The concept of "bastardization" is extremely judgemental and assumes that there were identifiably "pure" cuisines that existed in the past. Just for an example, if Indian food was bastardized by the British influence, then it was also bastardized by the introduction of chilies and tomatoes from the Americas by Europeans. (BTW, not cheerleading for colonialism here!)
We have to respect the intelligence and adaptability of Indian chefs who made foods that the British liked, the Chinese who created new dishes for the tastes of many countries they migrated to and where familiar Chinese ingredients were not available. And not to forget the Italian-Americans ... and the African American cooks and chefs who deeply influenced American cooking ... and the Native Americans whose foods became staples of nascent American cuisines. One could go on and on. Celebrate them!
We have to respect the intelligence and adaptability of Indian chefs who made foods that the British liked, the Chinese who created new dishes for the tastes of many countries they migrated to and where familiar Chinese ingredients were not available. And not to forget the Italian-Americans ... and the African American cooks and chefs who deeply influenced American cooking ... and the Native Americans whose foods became staples of nascent American cuisines. One could go on and on. Celebrate them!
SueD
August 10, 2016
When I learned to cook "curry" I was at an ashram back in the '70's. One of the cooks there wanted to learn how to make risen bread (not flat bread) and I wanted to learn to use spices. She was Gujarati and I'm a South Texan. We did not have a common language besides food. She brought out her small red tool kit full of small jars of spices. I brought flour and yeast and sourdough and we taught one another by observation.
Gervasia
August 10, 2016
I often use Maesri brand Thai curry pastes (there are many varieties), usually with coconut milk, to improvise quick meals. Not real Thai, but realistic when cooking for two. You can add a pop of fish sauce, some chopped cilantro, etc. I've found the pastes at Vietnamese and Chinese markets. A southeast Asian acquaintance (half Laotian Hmong and half Thai) who'd had a restaurant said that some restaurants use the pastes (he didn't). I've seen other brands of curry pastes in southeast Asian markets, but haven't tried them. I like Maesri because the cans are very small and the contents are clearly not diluted with anything. Unused portions keep well in the freezer. The instructions on the cans are helpful in terms of whether that particular variety of curry would be used with fish or meat, just vegetables, etc. However they seem very strange in terms of quantities; use your commons sense!!
josefernandez
August 10, 2016
I love to grind my own spice to make curry, but a friend told me I should use a mortar pestle instead of a machine. Does it make any difference? I don't have mortar pestle...is this one good http://amzn.to/2bgwhB0? What do you recommend if not?
Annada R.
August 10, 2016
Though I would not replace my spice grinder with a mortar & pestle, I recommend having one in your kitchen, especially if you like to come up with your own curry paste or spice blend. A mortar pestle allows you to control the consistency of the paste without the need to add any liquid - say in a blender. Of course, if you are using a dry spice blend, nothing like a coffee/spice grinder.
Epsi
August 10, 2016
Hi Jose,
It does make a hell of a difference. A blender is like fast and furious style and a mortar and pastel is more zen like - slow and steady - labor of love. On the technical side, a mortar and pestel actually chrushes the spice whereas a blender slices it very thin. You will notice in the case of the mortar and pestel the flavors are brought out more strongly than blended spices. Try it with ginger and garlic and cumin seeds and smell them yourself. The one you chose - Cole & Mason Granite Mortar and Pestle, 5.5-Inch - looks pretty nice. I have a similar one in black as well!
It does make a hell of a difference. A blender is like fast and furious style and a mortar and pastel is more zen like - slow and steady - labor of love. On the technical side, a mortar and pestel actually chrushes the spice whereas a blender slices it very thin. You will notice in the case of the mortar and pestel the flavors are brought out more strongly than blended spices. Try it with ginger and garlic and cumin seeds and smell them yourself. The one you chose - Cole & Mason Granite Mortar and Pestle, 5.5-Inch - looks pretty nice. I have a similar one in black as well!
Merideth K.
August 10, 2016
I always grind my own spices before preparing delicious vegan meals. They often contain turmeric, mustard, Sri Lanka cinnamon (the only kind I love), ginger, cumin, chile, and other elements of what's commonly referred to as "curry." Health and peace.
Subhash R.
August 10, 2016
Really, your confusion is of semantics. Really, you were discussing a Term and a Concept together as if they are the same thing. Really, a "Curry" should be considered a Concept and not a narrow and specific dish. You have mentioned Tamil and Kanada words but omitted the Telugu word "Kura" or "Cura", closest word (phonetically) to "curry". The word "Cura" means a certain dish prepared in a specific manner and it could be a meat (poultry included) poultry, or vegetable dish or both combined. For Indians, the word "Curry" is a general term like "Cura". No Indian will mistake a Rasam or soup or a salad or a dessert to be a curry! And "curry powder" is really nothing but a few spices mixed together and ground. Before the various Indian Spices were made available individually in the West, the one thing that provided the "masala" (mixture of spices) to make Indian spicy dishes (curries- plural of curry).
There is no doubt that most Indian Spices originate from South India, especially Kerala.
Subhash C Reddy
There is no doubt that most Indian Spices originate from South India, especially Kerala.
Subhash C Reddy
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