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S L.
July 30, 2017
Since baking Baking Soda is simply turning Sodium Bicarbonate into Sodium Carbonate, how about buying Sodium Carbonate and not going to the trouble. Sodium Carbonate is commonly available at most big box stores in the US as Washing Soda. If you live somewhere Washing Soda is not easily available, I see a point to forming it yourself by converting Baking Soda.
Ayn M.
January 22, 2021
Fair enough, but I'd be a little concerned that the Na2CO3 not necessarily being of food quality.
(Washing soda, incidentally, shines as a deodorizer of fabric. I can't stand the smell of Tide™, which is a problem if you buy clothes on eBay, it seemingly being the law that all such are saturated in the stuff, though there are certainly worse ways for used clothes to smell. I used to have to wash them five or six times to get that smell out, but one or two washes with washing soda will do; I found this tip on someone's dirty cloth diaper coping message board.)
(Washing soda, incidentally, shines as a deodorizer of fabric. I can't stand the smell of Tide™, which is a problem if you buy clothes on eBay, it seemingly being the law that all such are saturated in the stuff, though there are certainly worse ways for used clothes to smell. I used to have to wash them five or six times to get that smell out, but one or two washes with washing soda will do; I found this tip on someone's dirty cloth diaper coping message board.)
Jana
September 26, 2016
Why on an aluminum pan? I avoid that at all costs since it HAS been proven to increase amyloid plaques in human brains. No thanks to the aluminum!
Jeff P.
September 29, 2016
Hi Jana,
A glass pan would work too—the reaction at hand (sodium bicarbonate->sodium carbonate + carbon dioxide + water) doesn't involve anything other than the baking soda itself.
A metal cookie sheet (aluminum or otherwise) would simply be faster than a glass pan at heating up the baking soda, given the thermal characteristics of glass vs those metals.
A glass pan would work too—the reaction at hand (sodium bicarbonate->sodium carbonate + carbon dioxide + water) doesn't involve anything other than the baking soda itself.
A metal cookie sheet (aluminum or otherwise) would simply be faster than a glass pan at heating up the baking soda, given the thermal characteristics of glass vs those metals.
Matt
July 29, 2017
There isn't any link between Al and alzheimers disease. There are people with the disease who upon autopsy have been found to have no aluminium in their plaques just at there have been people who do have aluminium in their plaques. If we one day find that Al is somehow linked with alzheimer's disease, then baking utensils wouldn't even be the most concerning source in our diet. Our food and water is loaded with aluminium and has been for a long time, considering the Al is the third most abundant element in the Earth
Matt
July 29, 2017
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-any-proof-that-a/
If you want to do some research, all you have to do is use Google. The most common source of aluminium in these plaques is due to contamination in lab environments anyway.
If you want to do some research, all you have to do is use Google. The most common source of aluminium in these plaques is due to contamination in lab environments anyway.
Ayn M.
January 22, 2021
Please provide a citation (in a peer-reviewed journal, or a secondary source referring to one) for that assertion. Thank-you.
Harlan M.
April 3, 2021
Re "all you have to do": Consider that Google leads to false information just as readily as it leads to true information. So it takes more than Google--critical thinking skills are also a must!
Fred R.
September 25, 2016
I don't get why folks are making their own potassium carbonate. For about 15 bucks, which includes shipping, from Amazon, you can get a large bottle of Koon Chun potassium carbonate solution. I use 2 teaspoons per batch of noodles which should last about a lifetime.
jmacie
September 23, 2016
I have used Harold's baked baking soda in homemade ramen twice, to make the noodles alkaline and spongy. The first time it came out really pungent chemically tasting almost ammonia-like. I couldn't eat the noodles. The second time I made noodles, I used half the amount and it was still ammonia-like. I followed the directions from Harold exactly and I followed the noodle recipe exactly. Any insight?
I have been a chef for 13 years and went to culinary school, to explain the care I used preparing my recipes. Any help is appreciated!
I have been a chef for 13 years and went to culinary school, to explain the care I used preparing my recipes. Any help is appreciated!
Jeff P.
September 29, 2016
Hi J,
Puzzling! I love a good culinary mystery, and ammonia-like results from baked baking soda... well, the reaction doesn't produce any ammonia-like compounds. (I'm assuming you're using fresh sodium bicarbonate, and that there's no contamination, given your culinary expertise.)
I'd be curious what you would taste if you bought sodium carbonate directly. If you're wanting to experiment, search online for "sodium carbonate" or "washing soda" (make sure it's food grade) -- and try using that instead. Do you get the same ammonia-like hit?
Puzzling! I love a good culinary mystery, and ammonia-like results from baked baking soda... well, the reaction doesn't produce any ammonia-like compounds. (I'm assuming you're using fresh sodium bicarbonate, and that there's no contamination, given your culinary expertise.)
I'd be curious what you would taste if you bought sodium carbonate directly. If you're wanting to experiment, search online for "sodium carbonate" or "washing soda" (make sure it's food grade) -- and try using that instead. Do you get the same ammonia-like hit?
Ayn M.
January 22, 2021
I don't wish to offend, but is there any possibility that you used self-raising flour? I ask because it seems possible to me that an additional ingredient in the flour might be at fault; similarly, old enough flour might have breakdown products that could react with the sodium carbonate.
jpriddy
September 21, 2016
Does the baking soda pick up aluminum?
VeganWithaYoYo
September 21, 2016
As far as I understand, the reaction that takes place is the loss of a hydrogen atom on the bicarbonate molecule, forming sodium carbonate. Sodium carbonate is a stronger base than sodium bicarbonate, and thus it's more potent in chemical reactions.
I admit I've forgotten most of the organic chemistry that I took in college, so I can't go into a more intense description of what's happening, but aluminum isn't part of the reaction and won't end up in your "Baked Soda"
I admit I've forgotten most of the organic chemistry that I took in college, so I can't go into a more intense description of what's happening, but aluminum isn't part of the reaction and won't end up in your "Baked Soda"
Jeff P.
September 29, 2016
Yes to what VeganWithaYoYo said (what a great picture with a username like that)!
The aluminum isn't going to interact with the sodium bicarbonate. When heated, bicarbonate gives off a hydrogen ion that another bicarbonate picks up (ah, amphoteric compounds...), kicking off a carbon dioxide and water molecule in the process.
The aluminum isn't going to interact with the sodium bicarbonate. When heated, bicarbonate gives off a hydrogen ion that another bicarbonate picks up (ah, amphoteric compounds...), kicking off a carbon dioxide and water molecule in the process.
VeganWithaYoYo
September 20, 2016
I've yet to try this, but it definitely looks like a good compromise. I'm crazy enough to try lye, but my wife probably isn't, and I'd rather not have lye in a house with toddlers!
In Alton's pretzel episode, he said that baking soda didn't work well enough on its own, so he used the egg wash to make up the difference. I've been wondering if baked baking soda works so much better than unbaked that the egg wash isn't necessary. Any chance you tried it without the eggs?
In Alton's pretzel episode, he said that baking soda didn't work well enough on its own, so he used the egg wash to make up the difference. I've been wondering if baked baking soda works so much better than unbaked that the egg wash isn't necessary. Any chance you tried it without the eggs?
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