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This is the end?

I read today that the San Francisco Chronicle is discontinuing it's weekly food section. Is that right? The LA Times (my old hometown rag) folded it into a stupid Saturday "lifestyle" section and it's now only four pages. Even though I contribute to on-line publications, d*****, I still love holding that newsprint in my hand. But I'm surprised that SF, even with a crappy daily newspaper like the "Commical" would drop it's food section completely. Is this for real?

pierino is a trusted source on General Cooking and Tough Love.

asked about 3 years ago
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boulangere

Cynthia is a trusted source on Bread/Baking.

added about 3 years ago

Something isn't paying its own way, evidently. I love the Chronicle, and will continue to read it online, as I read it for much more than its food section, which has been flagging over the past year or so. Michael Bauer is getting a little too "same old same old," and print restaurant reviews aren't what they used to be. The Chron has been decreasing its recipe content consistently, so the demise can't be entirely unanticipated. Unfortunate? Sure. But not surprising. Denigrate it as you wish, but survival is the word of the day for many print media any more.

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Greenstuff

Chris is a trusted source on General Cooking

added about 3 years ago

Just heard on the news that the story is false. Sure hope so.

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added about 3 years ago

Can you give a link to your source of information, Pierino?

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pierino

pierino is a trusted source on General Cooking and Tough Love.

added about 3 years ago

This is what I read this morning http://eater.com/archives... Folding it into a "Life Style" section is what the L.A. Times did. I can't attest to accuracy but Wednesdays, at lunch without a newspaper in my hand is pretty hard to bear.

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Greenstuff

Chris is a trusted source on General Cooking

added about 3 years ago

His source was pretty good, the New York Times. Here's the SF Chronicle response
http://www.sfgate.com/news...

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I wonder if you looked up "obfuscation" in Wikipedia, would the Chronicle editor's comments appear as a citation?

A newspaper has been a ritual virtually every day since I learned to read and I'll be one of the last print subscribers on Earth (or die trying). If it weren't against my interests, I'd be amused at how many times I've read laments about the death of the medium while literally on the same page there's a link to additional information, photos, etc. The phrase "digging one's own grave" comes to mind…

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pierino

pierino is a trusted source on General Cooking and Tough Love.

added about 3 years ago

Indeed, ChefOno. Newsprint is a quotidian habit for me as well (USA Today doesn't count). The Chron has become a parody of itself. It was never that great to begin with. Like the city of San Francisco itself it's incredibly provincial. They only have field reporters for local stories---everything else comes off the wires. Ask yourself when was the last time the SF Chronicle won a Pulitzer. Possibly Herb Caen did, I don't know. The LA Times used to win 6 or 7 a year under the Chandlers but they've staggered also. You would think that a city that prides itself (justifiably) on its food scene would hold to that Wednesday tradition. Not the Commical.

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Ah, yes, those were the days…Good old "Don't call it Frisco" Herb…Writing of hippies and beatniks in neighboring Berserkeley…Baghdad by the Bay no longer…A better day for sure…

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Maedl

Margie is a trusted home cook immersed in German foodways.

added about 3 years ago

I think many newspapers' food sections have gone downhill in the last decade or so. I used to look forward to Wednesday morning breakfasts when I would devour the Washington Post food section along with my muffins. As the Post began to cut corners, I found myself less interested in their food writing. They even cut out their book review section, which I still think was a huge mistake. I've noticed some improvements in recent months, although I l don't think Jeff Bezos has been there long enough to take credit. It will be interesting to see how it develops. Hope SF hangs on to its section!

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added about 3 years ago

I would not worry too much,Pierino!TV did not kill radio,despite e-books there are still bookstores around,and now,even vinyl records are making a come back...

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added about 3 years ago

Unfortunately whether or not the story is true, it probably portends the future of that section . I once worked at The Oregonian and its sister, The Oregon Journal when they were dailies each with an multiple editions. Now, that once great newspaper(owned by the Newhouses) only publishes a paper edition 3 times a week and the rest is online. I think the Chron is heading down the same path.

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added about 3 years ago

Pierino, San Francisco has never tried to be New York. LA, or DC. It is a small town with some big players that like the eclectic atmosphere that the city by the bay exudes. It's a harbor town, an artist colony, a mini-meca for food, technology, money and the arts. I think the Chron. reflects this. I think it makes sense to reshuffle things a bit.

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pierino

pierino is a trusted source on General Cooking and Tough Love.

added about 3 years ago

Soozll, I've spent a great deal of time in San Francisco (and on both sides of the Bay). The reason I describe San Franciscans as "provincial" is that their main preoccupation is congratulating themselves that they live in San Francisco. It's myopic and narcissistic. The San Jose Mercury News is actually a much better edited paper. There are plenty of things I love about SF including the Ferry Building and the street cars. But you would have to put a gun to my head to climb on a cable car. What? I'm supposed to pay $5.00 to ride on the outside of a public conveyance?

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I note, as many others must note, that when Pierino goes on one of his rants his other avatars come to join him (the choir chirps away). So blinking obvious and not very clever.

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added about 3 years ago

Pierino, if you also have an online subscription, you can read the NYT food section online before Wednesday. Online news rules.

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added about 3 years ago

Sorry,Hotstuff101,but if anything here sounds like unnecessary rant,is your answer.And somewhat disrespectful too.

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Pierino I'm afraid your days of daily holding any newspaper in your hands are dwindling. All news will be on-line very soon. Alas.

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added about 3 years ago

Having a history with a major newspaper, I am indeed sad at the demise of the printed page. I was an employee at a time when women were a new idea and we joined the "good old boys " network which involved martinis every Friday payday at the bar across the street.

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pierino

pierino is a trusted source on General Cooking and Tough Love.

added about 3 years ago

dymnyno, I think of the Chron in the same way I think of The Onion. Now, "Kim Jong Un, Sexiest Man in the World" could easily be a headline with the Chron. And people would read it and believe it and not get the joke. That's what I mean about "provincial".

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added about 3 years ago


Thank you, Cynthia, for that reminder of days gone by and the fight between evening papers and morning editions, for which has the advantage in "scooping" the other. The battle lines have shifted.

Dymnyno: A tip of the hat to a pioneer.

Pierino: Well stirred.