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EmmaSUcks
January 11, 2024
Why would u write 3 whole paragraphs about how flour tortillas are jewish just to say Flour tortillas have lard and not kosher so flour tortillas "probably weren't jewish. what a waste of time im trying to write a paper about this blog for school and you make it so confusing you have no idea the anger you have made me bottle up inside. I hate this blog with a passion and severely ruined my day and stripped any enjoyment i have for the next days of my class learning about flour tortillas. bad blog
Rosalind P.
January 11, 2024
Actually there's a lot of interesting historical information here, although if you started out needing to prove that tortillas are Jewish...not so interesting to you. However, you sound like a young person (high school?) and if you slowed down on your anger you could learn some interesting stories here. There is, however, a small error, typical of someone who tries to write about a subject she isn't all that familiar with. She says Jews "avoid" (i.e., don't eat) certain grains at Passover, and then lists them. She includes wheat among them which is absolutely incorrect. Wheat may be, and actually is, eaten at Passover but its growing and preparation is strictly regulated so that absolutely no leavening occurs -- meaning contact with water, which is interpreted in Jewish law, as making wheat leaven. So the rules say that the wheat may be in contact with water for no more than 18 minutes before it is baked. Thus, Jews can and do eat wheat, only carefully regulated. As for the other grains, rules vary. Some sub-groups of Jews do eat rice. Why other grains are prohibited is a long story. But do curb your anger and open yourself up to wider perspectives. This blog, which may be mistaken sometimes, is NOT weird.
[email protected]
February 15, 2023
I know this is an old article but l would love to clear something up. Corn is kosher. There’s nothing in kosher about corn. The reason the Jewish people made the flour tortillas was because they had escaped the Spanish Inquisition to mexico. But eventually, the inquisition reached mexico and they were again not allowed to practice Judaism. So they invented the flour tortilla as a secret way of being able to fulfill the commandment of eating matza on Passover. Unleavened bread made of… flour and water. In making it something they ate all year round, they were able to eat it on Passover too without raising suspicion that they were practicing Judaism. If you’re Jewish and don’t know about the Spanish Inquisition, I suggest you learn about it. It is a very big part of our history.
Alex
September 5, 2022
Ahh. What would any reference to Spanish colonization of the New World (aka America) be without the obligatory descriptives, such as “brutal”. Such self-serving bunk from *some* Anglophones. I suppose the English way of conquering America by simply annihilating the natives outright would be more civilized and less “brutal”? Can we dispense with the Black Legend, already?
Rosalind P.
September 5, 2022
Rules of logic, Alex. Stating a fact does not negate other facts. So if I'm referring to the Spanish as brutal in their colonialism enterprise that doesn't mean that other nations weren't brutal. Now whataboutism rears its ugly head on wonderful Food52. Take it somewhere else.
Alex
September 9, 2022
“Whataboutism”? I see. Clever buzzword. But it fails to excuse or divert attention from your vulgar piling on the Spaniards. Maybe you should stick to listing recipes and their techniques, instead of venturing into matters where you are patently incapable of being objective and impartial.
Rosalind P.
January 11, 2024
I just came back to this page to see a new posting, and then saw this, which I missed when it was originally written. I wasn't the post-er who made any comments about Spaniards in the first place, and I don't understand her (his?) vehemence about a historical narrative that is fairly well settled. I had no dog in this hunt, and actually "whataboutism" is brilliant new coinage that takes the place of a whole lot more words. Basically, it's not a real defense against an argument to just avoid the argument by saying, well -- what about? Don't know how that makes me not "objective" or not "impartial". And I don't list recipes or their techniques.
Virginia
December 1, 2020
Right or wrong, about the origins, etc, I personally prefer corn tortillas, although a freshly made flour tortilla is delicious.
Doug S.
December 1, 2020
Wrong! Corn tortillas were a staple of the Mayans 10,000 years ago and flour tortillas were made shortly thereafter
Cristina
December 1, 2020
Doug S., corn was domesticated from a wild Mexican grain called teocintle, about 8-10,000 years ago.
Wheat, on the other hand, arrived with the Spanish invasion, about 500 years ago. Here's a link to an article (in English) published by the UNAM (the National Autonomous University of Mexico, my country's most important seat of higher education) that supports my statement.
http://www.revistascisan.unam.mx/Voices/pdfs/2919.pdf
The Spanish, who were accustomed to eating wheat-based breads, also needed wheat to make communion hosts. Roman Catholic Canon Law forbids making communion hosts from any other grain.
*In the mid-16th century, the Spanish also brought grape roots to what is now Mexico, for making wine. The Catholic Church also requires the consecration of wine during communion.
Oh, and PS: it's Maya, not "Mayans".
Wheat, on the other hand, arrived with the Spanish invasion, about 500 years ago. Here's a link to an article (in English) published by the UNAM (the National Autonomous University of Mexico, my country's most important seat of higher education) that supports my statement.
http://www.revistascisan.unam.mx/Voices/pdfs/2919.pdf
The Spanish, who were accustomed to eating wheat-based breads, also needed wheat to make communion hosts. Roman Catholic Canon Law forbids making communion hosts from any other grain.
*In the mid-16th century, the Spanish also brought grape roots to what is now Mexico, for making wine. The Catholic Church also requires the consecration of wine during communion.
Oh, and PS: it's Maya, not "Mayans".
Arturo C.
August 29, 2020
I scanned throughbthe comments and didn't any mention of the Italians. Situated in the Mediterranean, a diet rich with grain based food items, there is a bread called Piada or Piadine. It is unleavened flatbread made with flour, water, and lard or olive oil. It has been in existence since the Etruscans.
https://www.consorziopiadinaromagnola.it/en/history/
https://www.consorziopiadinaromagnola.it/en/history/
Elena D.
October 30, 2020
I'm from northern Mexico, where flour tortillas are abundant, and I can't say flour tortillas are considered to be native from here, either.
Alex
September 5, 2022
And yet wheat flour tortillas are authentic to Mexico. There is such a thing as convergent or simultaneous invention. You don’t seriously propose that people in New Spain (present-day Mexico and its former lands in the SW USA) were taking their culinary cues from Romagna in present-day Italy, do you? You might be surprised at how inventive we Mexicans can be all on our own.
Alex
September 5, 2022
Previous response was for Elena D. : You should see flour tortillas as the native Mexican product that they are.
Steeeve
April 24, 2020
I'm confused, why are you calling corn and rice legumes? They are both grass seed and therefor grains same as wheat. Legumes are peas and beans.
I love both types of tortillas. I do have some preferences depending on what type of food they are used for though. Tacos are better with flour because they tend to be softer and less brittle when unheated. Enchiladas are better with corn because it stays firm when wet. Corn is tastier when crispy in foods like tostadas and hard shell "tacos". Though both are good as fried food such as chimichangas and taquitos.
I love both types of tortillas. I do have some preferences depending on what type of food they are used for though. Tacos are better with flour because they tend to be softer and less brittle when unheated. Enchiladas are better with corn because it stays firm when wet. Corn is tastier when crispy in foods like tostadas and hard shell "tacos". Though both are good as fried food such as chimichangas and taquitos.
Smaug
April 24, 2020
The phrase was "...don't eat legumes and friends, like rice and corn..."; presumably the reference was to rice and corn being strongly associated with legumes- ie friends- and not to the actual consumption of one's friends and neighbors.
Fullmoon T.
January 21, 2020
I like both flour and corn tortillas. It depends on what I am eating that moment which I prefer and it fluctuates. Chile Verde goes well with flour. Sopa, fideo tomato soup I prefer corn tortillas. Caldo, I prefer corn. Chile Colorado, I prefer flour. I like both flour and corn quesadillas. I tend to lean more towards favoring flour tortilla because I can tote a burrito on the go. I have to sit down with tacos, because I don't want to wear my food. I like both but I have to say flour tortillas supersedes corn. My grandmother made both flour and corn. I was born in California, USA in a small town named Visalia. The article is interesting. Will we ever know who really is responsible for the flour tortilla?
Joy
January 21, 2020
Fullmoon T.!! OMG! I was born and raised in Exeter (11 miles east of Visalia). Small world, huh? Are you still there?
Smaug
January 21, 2020
Probably whoever first milled flour, but it's about the most basic and obvious thing you can do with flour and, basic flatbreads have no doubt been invented independently by many. In fact, I invented them myself yesterday- I was messing around with some experiments with a basic flour dough, and ended up with some crackers and a couple of quesadillas.
Russ
November 9, 2019
Loved this article and all the readers’ and author’s comments, suggestions, personal memories, cultural insights, corrections, amendments .. even a wonderful recipe! .. As for my own .. I would encourage everyone to have a go at “making your own” .. whether flour, corn, or a combination .. the flavor, texture and aroma are incomparable .. particularly if you can get hold of heirloom varieties of flour and/or corn .. With just a tiny bit of practice you will delight family and friends, and question how on earth did you ever eat store bought?!:)
Saul
August 26, 2019
Interesting subject. I personally don’t think they have anything to do with Jewish culture. If people were making corn tortillas someone it is just possible that someone just thought “hey let’s make wheat tortillas.” It isn’t that complicated. Mexico’s first cookbook in 1831 had a included a recipe for Wheat flour tortillas.
Another thing is that until the first half of the 20th Century, the vast majority of wheat production was in central and southern Mexico; places like Jalisco, Hidalgo, Mexico State, Querétaro, Guanajuato, Oaxaca and Michoacán. Northern Mexico did have wheat production until the late 19th century. At that time Hispanic people in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas were eating Corn tortillas, they had no idea what a wheat flour tortillas was. Also that first Mexican cookbook from 1831 just had recipes from central and southern Mexico. Which would probably mean that the flour tortilla is from Southern Mexico.
Another thing is that until the first half of the 20th Century, the vast majority of wheat production was in central and southern Mexico; places like Jalisco, Hidalgo, Mexico State, Querétaro, Guanajuato, Oaxaca and Michoacán. Northern Mexico did have wheat production until the late 19th century. At that time Hispanic people in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas were eating Corn tortillas, they had no idea what a wheat flour tortillas was. Also that first Mexican cookbook from 1831 just had recipes from central and southern Mexico. Which would probably mean that the flour tortilla is from Southern Mexico.
Steeeve
April 24, 2020
This makes more sense. It would take less for someone used to making tortillas to try making them out of wheat than someone used to wheat to try wheat tortillas. I'll bet the first wheat fields were tended to by enslaved natives who likely would have used some wheat to make tortillas.
Christina R.
May 5, 2019
I grew up in El Paso, Texas which is lies in the border of Juarez, Mexico. We had a mix of delicious authentic Mexican food and the more southwestern style Mexican food- both being pretty good. It would be hard for a nonlocal to discriminate between the two. Some things were set in stone such as street tacos always had corn tortillas, burritos always had flour tortilla and enchiladas had corn as well. Tacos were either flour or corn and flautas were always corn.
Quesadillas could be made with either one.:)
I'm seriously starving now that I've written all this! Ha!
Quesadillas could be made with either one.:)
I'm seriously starving now that I've written all this! Ha!
Lorian F.
November 23, 2018
There's a long history of "flour tortillas" in Norway, too. What we think of as lefse today includes potatoes, but lefse was made with just wheat flour for centuries prior to the introduction of potatoes to northern Europe.
Joy
January 21, 2020
Since my m-I-l passed away, I have missed my Lefse fixes. I would love to find a great recipe to make them for my grandkids.
Laura
October 26, 2018
I enjoyed reading this.
Tonight at a Mexican restaurant I sat next to a family with a member who couldn’t eat corn. They were surprised that the restaurant didn’t offer flour tortillas. No surprise to me. This is a legit place. But instead of acting like I knew about the origin of corn tortillas, I wanted to read something about it. Thank you!
Tonight at a Mexican restaurant I sat next to a family with a member who couldn’t eat corn. They were surprised that the restaurant didn’t offer flour tortillas. No surprise to me. This is a legit place. But instead of acting like I knew about the origin of corn tortillas, I wanted to read something about it. Thank you!
ER
September 11, 2018
Actually, the crypto-Jews avoided pork and still do. They made wheat tortillas with milk for softer ones or just water, and if available, used beef suet and much later, vegetable oil.
Raul M.
March 14, 2018
I was blessed with a nana who made both corn and flour tortillas. Corn tortillas were for enchiladas, enfrijoladas (bean sauce), and entomaladas (spicy tomato sauce). Flour tortillas were either "Sonorenses" (large and thin) or "gorditas" (small and thicker--good with soup). A special treat was "mayos." A food of necessity developed during WWII when lard and shortening were rationed and the government distributed coupons for a monthly allotment of mayonnaise. My family never ate mayonnaise, but recognized its high fat content and used it to make tortillas. They were soft and tangy, like sourdough.
Cynthia
March 13, 2018
Rprp -- can't find any other comment from Rprp -- but that's good to know. Thanks.
Rebecca F.
March 13, 2018
Much prefer corn, and for tacos and enchiladas it is imperative. Prefer the nutritional profile of corn to flour tortillas also, but am liking some of the whole grain flour tortillas for quesadillas or the occasional breakfast wrap.
Rprp
March 12, 2018
Cynthia..corn was not ever considered not kosher. That's an error. See my earlier comment
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