A question about a recipe: Cardamom,Orange and Chocolate Ribbon Cookies

I have a question about the recipe "Cardamom,Orange and Chocolate Ribbon Cookies" from sdebrango. Has anyone made sdebrango's ribbon cookies using all butter instead of shortening?

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hardlikearmour
hardlikearmour November 20, 2014

I've not, but I suspect if you go all butter the cookies will spread too much in the oven.

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sdebrango
sdebrango November 20, 2014

I also have not, I adapted from a vintage recipe which used all shortening and have always made according to directions. I use spectrum shortening in mine. Would be interested to see if anyone has but I suspect hardlikearmour is correct and they would spread with butter in the dough.

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Greenstuff
Greenstuff November 20, 2014

Thanks sdebrango and hardlikearmour. That's what I thought you'd say. But, with so many people having abandoned shortening and hundreds of people having saved the recipe to collections, I'm hoping someone's figured an adjustment.

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sdebrango
sdebrango November 20, 2014

I will also be interested to see if anyone has.

hardlikearmour
hardlikearmour November 20, 2014

I bet leaf lard would work :-). Maybe if you froze the sliced cookies before baking the all-butter would keep its shape.

sdebrango
sdebrango November 20, 2014

Leaf lard would actually be really good in the recipe. I always cut my dough very cold and bake cold but use shortening. I should experiment with this.

ChefJune
ChefJune November 20, 2014

I would probably sub out lard.

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Greenstuff
Greenstuff November 20, 2014

Haha, this discussion may not be helping me decide on a dessert for Saturday, but it's pretty interesting. Leaf lard in cookies--yea or nay? Shortening? What do we do about old recipes?

It inspired me to take a look at some of my own old family recipes. I had to go to Google to find out that one frequent ingredient, Spry, was a Crisco wannabe that did quite well through the Depression but went out of business in the 50s.

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sdebrango
sdebrango November 20, 2014

I heard of Spry before but only in passing never really knew what it was. I would definitely use leaf lard in cookies. I use it in pie dough and it's fantastic I imagine it would be the same for cookies.

Susan W
Susan W November 20, 2014

Real leaf lard is incredible for baking. It has zero pork flavor. It makes baked goods so tender and flakey. It's specifically fat from around an organ. The spleen? Can't remember exactly. I get all my lards and fats from Fatworks. Great little company here in Portland, but they ship all over. Their fats are all from pastured, kindly treated animals.

hardlikearmour
hardlikearmour November 20, 2014

@Susan W: I typically pick up leaf lard at Tails and Trotters or Laurelhurst Market in Portland. Have you tried either?

Susan W
Susan W November 20, 2014

HLA, no I haven't. I learned about leaf lard after I was already a customer of Fatworks. I was buying their beef tallow and duck fat and then they introduced the pig fat. I pick it up locally from them.

I'll have to try Laurelhurst and T&T. I like both of those establishments.

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