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Rob
April 30, 2019
I have really enjoyed this recipe. My wife is vegetarian and I am not, and this ramen is a great way for us to compromise (I cook pork on the side to add to mine). We do the broth without the bonito flakes, and it is still wonderful. I use about half the brown sugar though. I also keep a veggie scraps bag in my freezer and each time it is full, i make this for my wife (it does make it a little different every time, which I find fun). I have made this for large and small groups and have always had smiles from my company. Thanks for the recipe!!
Amanda M.
January 7, 2015
I do something similar, but since I don't eat any meat, I add a few drops of liquid smoke. It balances out the flavours and adds more to the umami profile :) I also rough chop my onion and carrots and leave them in. I am lazy so instead of letting it simmer forever I just make more than I need and leave the leftover broth to add to my bowl the next time I make it. Ha.
Marina R.
January 7, 2015
I noticed that in the recipe it shows boiling baby bok choy, but there is no mention if it in the recipe. Am I just not seeing it?
Catherine L.
January 8, 2015
Good point! I just quickly blanched my bok choi in the same water I used to make the to cook the noodles before adding it to my ramen bowl. Will add that instruction in!
Susan W.
January 7, 2015
I make dashi all the time. I am not a vegetarian, but I do sometimes run out of bonito. When I do, I make it with kombu and dried shiitake both of which I soak overnight. Leaving 2 TBS of bonito out of a dashi type stock is nothing like leaving chicken bones out of a chicken stock.
I can't wait to try this. It looks fabulous.
I can't wait to try this. It looks fabulous.
Catherine L.
January 7, 2015
Hi kimcam and Jodi,
First of all, you're completely right. I should have made it more clear that the ramen in the photo is pescetarian, NOT vegetarian. However, I have made the above ramen without the 2 tablespoons of bonito flakes, with equally great results. A few suggestions for ways to add more umami depth, while omitting the bonito:
a) adding more dried mushrooms, or several different types of mushrooms
b) adding a few tablespoons more soy sauce
c) adding a sheet or two more of nori
d) roasting all of the vegetables before adding them to the pot.
If anyone else has any suggestions, I'd love to hear them!
First of all, you're completely right. I should have made it more clear that the ramen in the photo is pescetarian, NOT vegetarian. However, I have made the above ramen without the 2 tablespoons of bonito flakes, with equally great results. A few suggestions for ways to add more umami depth, while omitting the bonito:
a) adding more dried mushrooms, or several different types of mushrooms
b) adding a few tablespoons more soy sauce
c) adding a sheet or two more of nori
d) roasting all of the vegetables before adding them to the pot.
If anyone else has any suggestions, I'd love to hear them!
Jodi B.
January 7, 2015
Thanks Catherine. I appreciate the response and the suggestions. I hope I didn't come across as overly critical - I was just very excited to read your article about a great vegetarian ramen that would rival those made with meat. When I got to the part about the bonito, I got the sense that the broth would be fine without it but would be even better with it and felt disappointed that it wasn't really a great "vegetarian" recipe, after all. Nevertheless, thanks again for your follow up - the recipe sounds great and I'm happy to hear it was just as good without them!
Catherine L.
January 8, 2015
Not at all! It was something I hadn't given just consideration to, thanks for bringing it up!
Jodi B.
January 7, 2015
I agree with kimcam. A recipe that lists animal protein as a "highly recommended" ingredient should not be labeled as vegetarian. At the very least you should call it pescetarian and then provide a suggestion for what to use in place of the bonito to make it vegetarian. As it stands now, making this and just leaving out the bonito would be like following a recipe for chicken stock and just leaving out the chicken. Not quite the same.
kimcam
January 6, 2015
A "vegetarian ramen" article that has bonito listed as a main ingredient comes across as misleading. I came here out of curiosity as *good* vegetarian dashi is pretty difficult compared to the normal type for maximum umami flavor, and I was reassured at first based on the author's comments about doing lots of experimentation to make it perfect. Then I got to the bonito line, which even says 'technically not vegetarian' - well, yes....? Why is that in this recipe as a main ingredient then? Even if it's removed and made optional, that's going to change the flavor profile.
I'd understand if instead a note had been added at the end saying 'if you're not vegetarian you can add bonito, but adjust A and B if so', but right now this seems equivalent to posting a recipe titled "vegetarian lasagna" and then including beef as a line item.
I'd understand if instead a note had been added at the end saying 'if you're not vegetarian you can add bonito, but adjust A and B if so', but right now this seems equivalent to posting a recipe titled "vegetarian lasagna" and then including beef as a line item.
Allyn
January 6, 2015
I just made Lady and Pups vampire slayer ramen the other day (https://girlnamedallyn.wordpress.com/2015/01/01/vampire-slayer-ramen/) and she blends soy milk into her broth for extra creaminess and richness. I bet it could help a vegetarian broth have more of the comforting mouth feel that I always think of with ramen.
Catherine L.
January 6, 2015
that's a really cool idea! my only worry would be that the soy milk would add too much flavor itself, but if the broth has enough zing on its own it should balance out!
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