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suchitra_tiwari
August 29, 2022
Hi, good information mentioned in this blog, Thanks for sharing this. Read more
Tarun
December 12, 2018
Helpful article - but I wanted to know - what is a "projectile ingredient" mentioned in the cookie section. It's not defined anywhere!
Sandy P.
October 19, 2019
When you use a stand mixer, and have dry and light or powdery ingredients, they can fly out of the bowl, making a big mess. Pulsing a bit avoids turning the ingredients into projectiles or dusty clouds.
Khuzdaar H.
May 19, 2018
Excellent article! Thank you very much. I was making chocolate chip cookies the second time when I overmixed the flour into the butter-egg mixture. The dough had nothing holding it together when i plopped it on the baking pan. However the second time I carefully blended the flour into the butter-egg mixture gradually and baked some nice cookies that didn't rise and fall!
Amy K.
March 4, 2017
In this post you recommend, from Mark Bittman, 2 different amounts of time for freaking butter and sugar. One says 4-5 minutes and another says no longer than 3 minutes. As I've never really had a problem when baking I'll stick with my own methods, however, this might confuse fledgling bakers.
Sarah J.
March 4, 2017
The first—4 to 5 minutes—is for maximum aeration (cakes and the like). The second—3 minutes—is for cookies. Hope that helps!
Greenstuff
February 25, 2017
Seventh grade home ec in the mid 1960s, we made muffins. That's where I learned that they are, as you say, a red alert for not over mixing--we were told that not only would they be tough, they'd have terrible air bubbles. And it's that class where we all became proficient at folding, which from all the discussion below, may have been the best skill I got in that class! Great article!
Kelly
February 25, 2017
OMG! Okay, community. I need your help! I am trying to get a smoother texture on my ricotta cheesecake. When I mix it too long, it curdles terribly when I add the eggs! And then in the oven, it stays curdled and a yellow liquid rises to the top and it's a mess. I mix for too short of a time, it stays lumpy. How do I make sure to mix it enough to make the ricotta mixture creamy without the batter breaking on me? Please help! The Internet is leaving me out to dry on this one!
Sarah J.
February 25, 2017
Hi Kelly,
Can you share the exact recipe? That might help us to give an answer!
Can you share the exact recipe? That might help us to give an answer!
Kayla F.
February 5, 2018
It sounds to me like your ingredients are not at room temperature... including the eggs! This is a must with any cheesecake recipe. Hope this helps!
Kayla F.
February 5, 2018
It sounds to me like your ingredients are not at room temperature... including the eggs! This is a must with any cheesecake recipe. Hope this helps!
Kayla F.
February 5, 2018
It sounds to me like your ingredients are not at room temperature... including the eggs! This is a must with any cheesecake recipe. Hope this helps!
ChefJune
February 24, 2017
Overall an excellent piece, Sarah!
However, I know I am not alone in taking issue with this definition from Mark Bittman:
Folding is NOT stirring at all. it is (usually using a flexible rubber spatula) lifting the batter up and over the dry ingredients until the two have become one. Stirring will not incorporate the correct amount of air into the product. This has been discussed ad nauseam in the professional baking community, and 98% of professional bakers agree that folding is never stirring.
However, I know I am not alone in taking issue with this definition from Mark Bittman:
Folding is NOT stirring at all. it is (usually using a flexible rubber spatula) lifting the batter up and over the dry ingredients until the two have become one. Stirring will not incorporate the correct amount of air into the product. This has been discussed ad nauseam in the professional baking community, and 98% of professional bakers agree that folding is never stirring.
Sarah J.
February 24, 2017
Thanks for the comment, ChefJune. Yes, I totally agree that it's a lifting motion! I was quoting Bittman, who does refer to it as a method of stirring—so I guess it all comes down to a definition of stirring, whether broad or specific. Ah, the wonders of language! :) Thank you for clarifying!
AntoniaJames
February 24, 2017
For an alternate perspective on gluten in pie crusts, may I respectfully commend this by my go-to expert for all things pastry: http://www.seriouseats.com/2016/06/how-to-make-a-beautifully-flaky-pie-crust.html ;o)
kels
February 24, 2017
So... creaming butter and sugar together for 4 to 5 minutes as suggested in section 2, does NOT apply to cookies, which have a recommended max of 3 minutes in the Cookies section?
Sarah J.
February 24, 2017
Yes, exactly. You want maximum aeration for (most) cakes but not for cookies, unless the recipe specifies otherwise!
HalfPint
February 24, 2017
While we are on the subject of folding, I understand what it means but could you provide better technique for folding. I know what the end goal is, but for the life of me, I seem always over fold and my mixture collapse. Is there some 'foolproof' (I hate to use this word, but here it is) fold without losing most of the aeration that I've worked so hard to get?
AntoniaJames
February 24, 2017
Mary Berry demonstrates the technique beautifully in several of the GBBO master classes. I cannot remember offhand which . . . perhaps someone here does. In any event, it's really not a stirring motion at all.
Here's a good description from the BBC:
Folding is to combine a light ingredient or mixture with a much heavier mixture while retaining as much air as possible.
-Add the light mixture to the heavier mixture.
-Carefully cut through the mixture with the edge of the spoon, working in a gentle figure of eight and moving the bowl as you go.
-Scrape around the sides and base of the bowl at intervals to incorporate all of the lighter ingredients into the mixture.
(Sadly, the short video is not available due to what appears to be a geographic blackout.)
What's not included here is something my mother always did, whether or not the recipe called for it: stir in a bit of the lighter ingredient mixture into the heavier ingredients to lighten them up a bit before adding all the rest of the lighter ingredients.
Also, Mary Berry slices through the batter, north pole to south pole and then pulls the batter up and over while turning the bowl, and then repeats that motion 4 or 5 times -- exactly as my mother taught me. It works! ;o)
Here's a good description from the BBC:
Folding is to combine a light ingredient or mixture with a much heavier mixture while retaining as much air as possible.
-Add the light mixture to the heavier mixture.
-Carefully cut through the mixture with the edge of the spoon, working in a gentle figure of eight and moving the bowl as you go.
-Scrape around the sides and base of the bowl at intervals to incorporate all of the lighter ingredients into the mixture.
(Sadly, the short video is not available due to what appears to be a geographic blackout.)
What's not included here is something my mother always did, whether or not the recipe called for it: stir in a bit of the lighter ingredient mixture into the heavier ingredients to lighten them up a bit before adding all the rest of the lighter ingredients.
Also, Mary Berry slices through the batter, north pole to south pole and then pulls the batter up and over while turning the bowl, and then repeats that motion 4 or 5 times -- exactly as my mother taught me. It works! ;o)
ChefJune
February 24, 2017
thanks, AJ! I didn't read your description before I posted mine. But i cannot imagine using a spoon to fold. I've always (and my mom before me) used a flat object, preferably a rubber scraper.
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